January 9th, actually.As of 1 Jan, state laws dictate carry policies for national parks.
That's not the question. Regulations issued that exceed statutory authority are not enforced by the courts. The CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) contains rules issued by the executive branch. The USC (U.S. Code) contains the laws passed by the house and senate and, generally, signed by the president. The postal service cannot legislate. It can only issue regulations within the scope of the authority granted to it by congress.Well you can see from what fiddletown said that if a judge rules that 39 CFR 232.1 supercedes 930 then you're looking at penalties as defined in 232.1 which were what I said earlier, $50 fine minimum or 30 days in jail maximum but no combination. If 232.1 does not supercede 930 then it will be a close call on the meaning of "for other lawful purposes" in which I'd lean more towards being legal grounds for carrying, but who knows.
True, but Congress has granted the USPS broad authority to adopt regulations (39 USC 401).MostlyHarmless said:...It can only issue regulations within the scope of the authority granted to it by congress...
From 39 CFR section 232.1 paragraph 5 part L:
(l) Weapons and explosives. No person
while on postal property may carry
firearms, other dangerous or deadly
weapons, or explosives, either openly
or concealed, or store the same on
postal property, except for official purposes
I found several cases with that name, but none seem to be what you're looking for.Olympus said:I think I found it: US v. Murray
All the courthouses I've been in federal and local, have allowed me to check my gun. I just tell them I have one and want to check it.On the court house thing..
(4)(A) As to such property, the Postmaster General may prescribe regulations necessary for the protection and administration of property owned or occupied by the Postal Service and persons on the property. The regulations may include reasonable penalties, within the limits prescribed in subparagraph (B), for violations of the regulations. The regulations shall be posted and remain posted in a conspicuous place on the property.
(B) A person violating a regulation prescribed under this subsection shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for not more than 30 days, or both.
(l) Weapons and explosives. No person
while on postal property may carry
firearms, other dangerous or deadly
weapons, or explosives, either openly
or concealed, or store the same on
postal property, except for official purposes
TECHNICALLY, it also says you can't leave it in your car, either while you go in.
My instructor made some reference to the USPS not being part of the Fed Gov't, or it being a private agency or something like that.
I don't believe everything I hear or everything I read. I don't carry in the PO, although I have had a firearm in the car while in the parking lot.
I will contact the instructor and seek clarification.
He also recommends Extreme Shock ammo about which I have heard nothing good.