confused about magazines and barrel length?

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Been looking at the Mossberg and the Remington. So far, I have read just about everything I can about shotties in the past week or so. Here what I have so far.

HD guns like shorter mags, and shorter barrels. Should never need the 8 or 9 shots the longer mags give you, and barrel changes are only possible on the Mossberg with the shorter magazines. So 590 is out if you want a multi purpose gun. Remington's extension will fit with different barrels. So it is possible to have an extended mag and a 24 inch barrel.

Remington is 4+1 vs 5+1 for the Mossberg with the shorter mags.

Anything you add to the front of the gun will cause you to lose handling. I am guessing that means barrel, magazine, tac light, bayonet lug, even a front sight. Any additional weight should be added as close to your body, which is the pivot axis, as possible, to allow you to pick up the target faster. Additional weight in the rear may sometimes be better for shouldering. But a lighter front end means the gun may kick more and make it harder to acquire a followup shot.

A bead light is available for the front sight from meprolite for about 22 bucks, if you want a nite sight.

Barrel shrouds are a 2 edged sword. Good if you shoot a lot and don't want burns on your hands, but bad when it comes to cleaning and they can scratch the finish.

Most people like pistol grips on an HD shotgun, but only if they are the stock and pistol grip combo. Pistol grip only shotties are pretty near impossible to handle, and are hard to shoot accurately. You can add a recoil pad to an adjustable stock, like the CAR stock, and adjust it to fit you. Anyone who has ever shot with a Knoxx Spec ops stock will tell you they are great. Even if they don't like them, and don't leave them on the gun.

Both the Remington and the Mossberg are now incorporating plastic parts. Mostly in the trigger area.

Remingron's magazine ramp stays down when the gun is in battery, and lifts the shell to feed it. Mossbergs stay up, and drop to load, and some say this makes it easier to load, and clear a malfunction.

Mossberg safeties are located on top, Remington's on the trigger guard. Mossberg safeties can be operated ambidextrously, but Remingtons can be swapped for lefties. Mossberg pump release is to the rear of the trigger guard, and Remington's are to the front.

Remingtons are way easier to field strip. But parts are mostly staked. Most Remingtons have better reliability in the internals. Mossberg's stuff is easier to change, but more prone to breakage.

Mossberg customer service is a hit or miss thing. Remington gets pretty high marks.

So far so good, I think.

So, Remington has more magazine options, has a better reputation for being better built, and is well known. Mossbergs are cheaper, lighter, have a lot of accesories as well, but less options. Mossberg barrels are cheaper by far than Remington barrels. Mossberg will probably have a gun in the configuration you like, but once you buy it, it's pretty much the way it is. Remington will leave you little option but to add accesories, but you can do about whatever you want.

Prices are anywhere between 250-400 depending on what gun, and what options.

Did I miss anything?

Stretch
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What I'd like to find is a solid answer as to why different guns with the same barrel/magazine tube length hold different numbers of shells.

Remington 870 18": 6+1
FN Police Gun 18": 7+1
FN Semiauto Police Gun 18": 6+1
Mossberg 500A 20": 7+1
Mossberg 590 20: 8+1

The big puzzle is the difference between the FN pump and semiautos. You'd think they'd use the same magazine tube/follower design to simplify mass production...
 
I know. It's confusing, isn't it?

I think the difference on the Mossberg is because of the way the barrel locks to the magazine on the 500, as opposed to the 590. But alas, I am guessing.

The other thing I'd like to know is why no one seems to have the basic 870 or the 500 anywhere. For a gun that's sooo popular, no one has or seems to stock either. It's always, well, woodlawncamo, or tacticool, or 8 shot, or 7, or something that makes the gun like 400 dollars. Where can you go to buy a normal 870 or 500? I'd like to know.

Stretch
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don't know if this helps your decicion.
Possibly the 18" pistol grip 500s were popular when they first came out. Now that the dust has settled. I think the 20" with a stock is a better choice. 2" longer isnt much when you already added a stock. Which i believe is the way to go. with the xtra 2"s it holds 3 more shots. I agree a stock/pistol grip is the way to go but not on mossberg. If you put one on it its hard to reach the safety.
I had a 500 and ended up with the 590. Read an article about home defense.
It recomended a stock for home defense because if you needed a free hand to say open a door, a shotgun with a stock could still be fired by keeping the but under your arm. with a pistol grip your sure to lose the gun if fired with one hand. made sense to me.
http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=5
plus the most important thing, the gun looks cooler with the full lug : )
 
Most gun stores won't stock basic Remington 870 Express (4+1) or Mossberg 500 (5+1) shotguns. The -Marts can undersell most gun stores on these items. Check your local sporting goods outlet. Dunhams always had a selection of shotties from Remington and Mossberg back in Michigan.
 
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