Considering moving to New Hampshire, Vermont or Maine. How are gun laws and attitudes

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I regard pro-gun laws a primary consideration when moving to a new location.

I may be considering a move to the Northeastern US. I know there are many anti-gun states like Mass, RI, Maryland, NJ, NY, etc.

Looks like possible safe havens include Vermont and New Hampshire and possibly Maine.

I also like to ski, hike, camping and general outdoors stuff. Don't mind the cold.
 
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None of those states have stand your ground laws...

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/nati...states-have-stand-your-ground-laws-too/50226/

I would check their tax laws and rates also.. New Hampshire's motto is live free or die...... apparently, this does not apply to the tax man, however....

I would love to retire in the North East but state, local and property taxes are way too high... I'm a CPA.

Wyoming has no income tax if you enjoy cold.....
 
Silencers are prohibited in Vermont.

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-5/atf-p-5300-5-vermont.pdf


4010. Gun silencers A person who manufactures,
sells or uses or possesses with intent
to sell or use, an appliance known as or used for
a gun silencer shall be fined $25.00 for each
offense. The provisions of this section shall not
prevent the use or possession of gun silencers
for military purposes when so used or possessed
under proper military authority and
restriction
 
Vermont

After 20 yrs in Uncle Sam's shooting club I wanted to move to a pro firearm state and enjoy my off time shooting.....moved to Vermont and this is where they will bury me when the time comes.
Taxes suck, fuel oil price sucks and we have to many "trust fund" people from MA moving up here and telling us how to run the state, other then that. I'm happy to be able CCW with no strings and target shoot on my own property and not have a SWAT team kicking down my door for doing so. We have are problems like any other state but just not as many.
 
Maine is nice property taxes are low,their sales tax is on everything but food and their income tax is in the 5-6% range I believe. Had an uncle that lived in Boothbay,biggest problem was snow removal in the winter and heating fuel cost were a killer,at the time K1 was in the $4 a gallon range.
 
My understanding is that New York makes it very difficult for anyone to legally transport carry guns by land from those states to the rest of the country. If you plan to travel, have you planned how you will do so?
 
Vermont, I think. For all its socialist leanings, it's still an incredibly stable state relative to firearms freedoms. And, the more of us here, the more likely it is to stay that way.
 
No income or sales taxes in NH, consequently the property taxes are high.
Don't know about availability of natural gas (we use propane) but natural gas and wood for heat could save some $$. It is out in the boonies, but Dartmouth has state of the art medical facilities, Mary Fletcher in Burlington is not too shabby either. Vermont has a spring firearm season for pike.
Good luck.
 
New Hampshire is also home of the Free State Project, a group that is trying to get people to move to that state and actively work to make things even more free. You should check it out.
 
New Hampshire State Income Taxes:

Income Tax; New Hampshire collects a state income tax at a maximum marginal tax rate of 5.00%, spread across one tax brackets. Unlike the Federal Income Tax, New Hampshire's state income tax does not provide couples filing jointly with expanded income tax brackets. There are a total of thirty three states with higher marginal income tax rates then New Hampshire.

New Hampshire individual tax rates apply to interest and dividend income only.
 
VT does not have a 'stand your ground' law. But neither does it criminalize homicide committed in defense of oneself or another. Because we know how to correctly write laws here.

The statute covering justifiable homicide is here:

13 V.S.A. § 2305. Justifiable Homicide

One will note that it's a lot less contortionate than Florida's vaunted model. One should also note that VT jurisprudence doesn't recognize justifiable homicide as a defense for the aggressor in a confrontation, as Florida unfortunately does.

My biggest complaint about VT is the lack of jobs outside the service sector, due to our utterly unproductive tourism based economy. But since the wealthy flatlanders don't want their scenic mountain views impacted, as they sit in their 5000sqft McMansions in Chittenden County, we're stuck with it.

The cost of living here is high, but the standard of living is also one of the best in the United States.
 
Have you ever heard of the Free State Project in NH?

http://freestateproject.org/

Here is the statement of intent:

I hereby state my solemn intent to move to the state of New
Hampshire. Once there, I will exert the fullest practical effort
toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of
civil government is the protection of life, liberty, and property.

Over one thousand have made the move already and 11,000 have pledged to do so. It sounds like you might fit in if you believe in personal liberty.

Open carry is legal everywhere in NH without a permit except in courtrooms.
There is also no sales tax, no state income tax and the lowest percentage of taxes in the US.
 
...so if I move to Vermont I can carry open or concealed without any permit?

Are there any other states like that?
 
Yes, if you move to Vermont you can open/conceal carry as you wish, no permit. You'd really enjoy the northern part of NH too (where I am) VERY pro 2A in this area, hunting is still king, premier hiking in the North East, skiing, close to Montreal, Portland (Maine), Boston, Burlington (VT) etc.
There are still tons of places to shoot (esp. on your own property if you don't live in/near the "compact area" of the town. Full rights to shoot in the National Forest, state lands, permission by owner, etc. You'd really enjoy it here in NH.
 
...so if I move to Vermont I can carry open or concealed without any permit?

Are there any other states like that?
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Yes, you (or anyone else eligible to possess a firearm under the 1968 GCA) can carry without a permit of any kind. The VT Supreme Court ruled that permits to carry violate the state constitution in 1903. Which is why VT does not offer permits for reciprocity purposes- they are unconstitutional.

Thus far, Arizona and Alaska allow all persons legally eligible to possess a firearm to carry concealed or openly without a permit.

Wyoming allows all Wyoming residents who can legally possess a firearm to carry concealed or openly without a permit.

But all three of these states accomplish this via legislation. As such, that legislation can be repealed with a change of the legislature. Keep in mind that until 1994 Arizona and Alaska were both 'no-issue' states- you couldn't even get a permit there. They could just as easily go back with the whim of the electorate.

Wyoming was 'may-issue' until 1994. Could go back at any time.

Vermont is the only state in the US with true constitutional carry- the right to keep and bear arms by the individual for self defense is specifically and unambiguously enshrined in the state constitution (in language much clearer than the 2A), and that facet of the state constitution has been explicitly upheld by the courts since the founding of the Vermont Republic in 1775 (VT was an independent nation from 1775-1791)

While it's true that one may not possess a suppressor in VT (it's a civil violation with a penalty of a $25 fine), a suppressor is not a firearm. It's an accessory.
 
Yes, if you move to Vermont you can open/conceal carry as you wish, no permit.
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You don't even need to move here. Article 16 of the state constitution protects all persons, not just residents.
 
A word RE NH....its not as pro RKBA as they advertise ....look at some of my old posts regarding my " grey area legal status"....Black Knight can probably chome in
I am working as an armed giard at a federal site - and I get routinely denied on FFL tranafers.Yes I have redundant state licensong and federal clearances.No I am neither a felon or a wifebeater.Yet beginning with a Dept of Safety denied transfer,I am still working thru a lawyer to get ATF/NICS& Dept of Safety to acknowlwdge that I am not a " prohibited person".
 
A word RE NH....its not as pro RKBA as they advertise ....look at some of my old posts regarding my " grey area legal status"....Black Knight can probably chome in
I am working as an armed giard at a federal site - and I get routinely denied on FFL tranafers.Yes I have redundant state licensong and federal clearances.No I am neither a felon or a wifebeater.Yet beginning with a Dept of Safety denied transfer,I am still working thru a lawyer to get ATF/NICS& Dept of Safety to acknowlwdge that I am not a " prohibited person".
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Put your social security number on the form or get a PIN number. Are you getting denied on long guns?
 
Here are the differences between VT and NH. In NH, you don't have gun registration of any kind. You don't need a permit to buy any gun -- handgun or long gun. You only need a license to carry a concealed handgun. Barring criminality, it shall be issued. In reality, it typically takes less than a week. There have been pockets of resistance to this in certain jurisdictions, but all have been quickly eradicated by legal challenge.

I don't live in VT, but I'm fairly certain, there is no gun registration, no permits, and it is a 'Constitutional Carry' state (or as we say in NH, 'Vermont carry '); that is, the second amendment is your concealed carry permit.

Forget Maine. It is not in a league with either VT or NH in terms of respect for the Second Amendment.

Other differences between VT and NH:

Vermont has more farmland. NH has more timber. Both are beautiful. Both inhabited by decent people. Both are blessed with
great ski areas. Vermont has a state income tax. NH does not.
And although NH has the Free State Project, Vermonters are fiercely independent people, covetous of their liberties.

Toss a coin.
 
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