Could have had an ND today.

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zahc

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I went home to my parent's house today. My dad has bean fields, and therefore groundhogs. I was on the phone with him discussing wether or not we were going to take the scope off one rifle and put it on another one. I got the guns out and put them on the couch next to each other to compare the sizes of scopes. For whatever reason I opened the bolt on one and out pops a Hornady VMAX varmint round. I was just like W...T....F. It got pretty quiet over the phone.

What had happened was when I picked them out of the safe, I opened the bolt to check that they were not loaded, even sticking my pinky up to the breech face, as is my habit, to make sure a round wasn't stuck in the chamber due to a faulty extractor. I'm thorough like that, when it comes to gun safety. Then I closed the bolt.

However I did not actually LOOK at them. Guns are always empty in the safe so it's a formality anyway, right?

Apparently he had left one of the rifles in 'condition three', because groundhogs sometimes show themselves within range of the house and having a gun already loaded is a good thing. Plus my mother doesn't have to worry about getting the right ammo for the rifle (rifle rounds can look quite similar to someone not familiar with guns) and so he leaves that one 'loaded' for her. So I had opened the bolt, checked the chamber, and unknowingly slammed home a fresh round. The safety was not on either.

I was not treating them like loaded guns. I had set them down on the couch and flipped them over several times. Who knows the things I had pointed it at. I could have, at any point, dryfired it because I thought they were empty. I was just sick.

I actually remember the reason I opened the bolt, was that I was preparing to dryfire it. I actually had my finger on the trigger. I had just 'checked' it. But the little paranoid voice in my head said are you sure it's empty? and went and popped the bolt to make double sure. It's a good thing!!!!

Moral:
Make sure your gun handling habits are sound, and there's no way something can slip past you. Also, even when you know guns are empty, make it habit to treat them like guns regardless. If I had failed to double check the chamber and 'dryfired', the round would have gone relatively harmlessly into the log wall of the house. Which is good in a way.


Remember, guns are no joke and pay attention whenever you are handling them.
 
I think something like that has happened to us all at one time or another, good reminder though.
 
Yep. It happens. It's good to listen to the little voice.

My *** moment was a few weeks ago when I was getting rifles ready to take to the range. I got out the Henry 22 that my nephew favors, and did the little ritual I always do even though I know I store my rifles unloaded: I removed it from its case and cycled the lever just to be sure. What do you know, out popped a live round. I observed a moment of embarassed silence.

I had to have cased up a loaded firearm during the previous range session. That's just poor gun handling, and a violation of the range's safety rules to boot. I like to think of myself as a guy that the RSO can always trust to be safe. I really don't like it when I'm not that guy.

For you to post your mishap here means you intend to learn from it. The lesson that costs nothing except pride is a bargain. You'll be a safer gun handler because of it.
 
I was not treating them like loaded guns. I had set them down on the couch and flipped them over several times.
There Zahc is the main potential error IMO - whether we have shown clear a coupla times or more - they MUST be treated as loaded - in particular re rule #2 - so that should an ND occur at least no one gets hurt.

We have probably all been close to this type of situation - I remember shooting a snake with a 20G Mossy - and whilst taking it back down to basement, racked it to check empty chamber and then fired to release hammer - but - I had very efficiently chambered the second (forgotten) round I had in mag" - BOOM!! Very loud noise! I was fortunately tho assuming loaded even tho thinking it was clear and so - pellets hit nothing of great import.

Rule #2 is IMO the biggest catch-all and face saver if ''click becomes bang''! :p

Good of you to write this up tho - it is not always easy to talk about near mistakes but - beauty of it is - it reminds rest of us that we are fallible beings and so - watch the rules at ALL times.

Betcha won't let that happen again in a hurry eh! :uhoh: :)
 
"I opened the bolt to check that they were not loaded, even sticking my pinky up to the breech face, as is my habit, to make sure a round wasn't stuck in the chamber due to a faulty extractor. "

I have a friend that did this with a 22 semi, said it was too difficult to look in the chamber. He's been in a wheelchair for 33 years since then. Always look!
 
Zahc...

However I did not actually LOOK at them. Guns are always empty in the safe so it's a formality anyway, right?

Thanks for sharing this incident with us. It takes a bit of courage to admit when you did wrong. By posting this you just might save someone in the future.

The answer is, "Always check a gun when you first pick it up."
 
People rarely have an ND with a loaded gun, it's always the unloaded ones that go off unexpectedly.

It's the unloaded guns that are the most dangerous. It's easy to be careful with a loaded gun, I mean, it's a loaded gun - of course you're going to be careful with it!

The difficulty is in always being careful with the unloaded ones, too.
 
I came home from the range once, sat down in front of the television with the cleaning gear, and prepared to clean while "watching" a movie. Picked up the Glock and got ready to pull the trigger to strip it. Hesitated, for God knows what reason and racked the slide, and watched as a loaded round ejected and landed gracefully in my lap.

Yeah, there's all loaded again, at least in my mind.
 
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