If the bore is rough enough to scrape a brass drop weight on your bore snake think what it will do to a tight fitting bullet when fired. My reason for breaking in a barrel. Get the roughness out and all the initial copper fouling before it packed Intl the rifling.
Could the brass drop weight of my boresnake have scratched my rifling?
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TurtlePhish
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With steel, not very. Brass, pretty freakin' hard. Brass cleaning rods that get covered in carbon and powder fouling can be more abrasive, though, so make sure you wipe off your cleaning rod every pass through if you use one.
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I concur. You are looking for (and will likely encounter) trouble if you continue to use a boresnake. Especially with a .17 rifle bore. Chuck the boresnake and get a coated rod and muzzle protector.
HARD & no brass won`t do it..................
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Well... I used some copper solvant and used a brush and went through the bore quite a few times. However, the marks (or whatever they really are) are still there after close examination. They are very small mind you. It doens't seem like anything I can do will remove them. This leaves me with some good news, and some bad news.
The good news is that the world isn't ending. Even though I'm not 100% happy with how my barrel looks, the world is in fact not over. The other good news is that I havn't even shot it yet, and may be flawless. If there is some sort of issue, I can always send it in to savage and see what they can do. (I always seem to think of the worst case scenario, I guess i'm just pessimistic.
The bad news... There isn't really bad news other than I worry about this stuff more than I should...
The good news is that the world isn't ending. Even though I'm not 100% happy with how my barrel looks, the world is in fact not over. The other good news is that I havn't even shot it yet, and may be flawless. If there is some sort of issue, I can always send it in to savage and see what they can do. (I always seem to think of the worst case scenario, I guess i'm just pessimistic.
The bad news... There isn't really bad news other than I worry about this stuff more than I should...
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leafy-
you haven't shot it yet, there are tiny burs and sharp edges in your new bore that will take many shots before becoming "burnished" smooth. You did not hurt the bore.
With that said, I would not use a boresnake on a .17 or .22 simply because it is a pain in the butt on small diameter bores.
one more thing, be really careful not to damage your muzzle crown when cleaning. That is a more common problem with improper cleaning habits
you haven't shot it yet, there are tiny burs and sharp edges in your new bore that will take many shots before becoming "burnished" smooth. You did not hurt the bore.
With that said, I would not use a boresnake on a .17 or .22 simply because it is a pain in the butt on small diameter bores.
one more thing, be really careful not to damage your muzzle crown when cleaning. That is a more common problem with improper cleaning habits
Leafy, you didn't damage the bore to the point of sending it in for service. If its been cleaned get out and shoot it. You weren't concerned about breaking it in why are you soooo concerned about a brass mar? First bullet down the bore will leave more copper in there than what you have now.
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Brass did not gouge steel by your simply dropping a free-falling piece down the barrel.
Brass pressing hardly (real-hard, that is) against any steel fragments perhaps still in the barrel from manufacture could MAYBE cause an issue, however, unless you were pulling with all your might, nearly breaking the string, I truly doubt you did ANYTHING at all to your barrel.
Look at it this way -- the "workout" the barrel gets from one, single-shot of a CALM LOAD, is probably 100 to 1,000 times more aggressive on the barrel than what you did!
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What you are mentioning would be like driving down the road with brand-new expensive radial tires and hitting a stone the size of a baseball that "happened" to put a mark on the sidewall of your tire. You try cleaning that mark off the sidewall, however the rubber has been abraded a teeny-bit, so the mark remains.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the tire -- other than a very minute-COSMETIC issue which has absolutely NO bearing on how the tire will operate and how long the tire will last compared to the other three brand-new tires you now have on your car!
Brass pressing hardly (real-hard, that is) against any steel fragments perhaps still in the barrel from manufacture could MAYBE cause an issue, however, unless you were pulling with all your might, nearly breaking the string, I truly doubt you did ANYTHING at all to your barrel.
Look at it this way -- the "workout" the barrel gets from one, single-shot of a CALM LOAD, is probably 100 to 1,000 times more aggressive on the barrel than what you did!
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What you are mentioning would be like driving down the road with brand-new expensive radial tires and hitting a stone the size of a baseball that "happened" to put a mark on the sidewall of your tire. You try cleaning that mark off the sidewall, however the rubber has been abraded a teeny-bit, so the mark remains.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the tire -- other than a very minute-COSMETIC issue which has absolutely NO bearing on how the tire will operate and how long the tire will last compared to the other three brand-new tires you now have on your car!
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How hard is it to scratch a barrel - especially with a small piece of brass of very little weight that is attached to a cord?
Pretty sure that it is not possible.
About bore snakes.....I like them and use them regularly. I also use rods and patches. For convenience, there's no beating a bore snake.
About pulling abrasives back through the bore......maybe so...I suspect, though, that there is not much of an issue there since I am again pretty sure that the particles in question are not as hard as the steel in the barrel.
Pete
Pretty sure that it is not possible.
About bore snakes.....I like them and use them regularly. I also use rods and patches. For convenience, there's no beating a bore snake.
About pulling abrasives back through the bore......maybe so...I suspect, though, that there is not much of an issue there since I am again pretty sure that the particles in question are not as hard as the steel in the barrel.
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Just a quick question .If you have never shot it why were you clening the barrel? Btw there is no way you hurt you barrel.
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Almost any rifle new from the manufacturer (if not all of them) come covered in a film of packing grease, including the bore.
I would lean toward tool marks in the bore scratching the brass weight.
Having borescoped many barrels, mass produced barrels have a lot of tool marks from the rifling process.
Some people will lap the bore in high quality barrels because tool marks or scratches will aid in copper fouling build up. Also lapping a bore will make it easier to remove fouling.
It is possible that some of the brass weight has stuck to one of these tool marks.
It may be possible to remove it by using Butch's Bore Paste, but don't go overboard.
Having borescoped many barrels, mass produced barrels have a lot of tool marks from the rifling process.
Some people will lap the bore in high quality barrels because tool marks or scratches will aid in copper fouling build up. Also lapping a bore will make it easier to remove fouling.
It is possible that some of the brass weight has stuck to one of these tool marks.
It may be possible to remove it by using Butch's Bore Paste, but don't go overboard.
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If he cuts his new barrel lengthwise and sends it to a metalurgist, he could find out EXACTLY what happened and just how it happened!One slight problem.
You would need a new barrel.
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