Could you survive the zombies?
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mrmeval
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They'd better ****ing kill me for real cause I'd hunt the jokers down.
crowbardog
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That has to be one of the most retarded things that I have ever seen on the internet... and I've been on since '95..........................
Nehemiah Scudder
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It's total BS imo.
But, it's a cool idea if it really worked.
But, it's a cool idea if it really worked.
oh yeah, I can beleive that.......
the sleeping pill beer guy stands up while he sleeps...
besides all that, duh, check your weapon
I would have tried to shoot out the door first, good function check. Or a ceiling tile, there was time. Saw no need to discharge the firearm towards the zombies, it was a better club.....after the function check. Ceiling tile would have hole, door would too.
jeepmor
the sleeping pill beer guy stands up while he sleeps...
besides all that, duh, check your weapon
I would have tried to shoot out the door first, good function check. Or a ceiling tile, there was time. Saw no need to discharge the firearm towards the zombies, it was a better club.....after the function check. Ceiling tile would have hole, door would too.
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david_the_greek
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wow thats a bunch a bologni. funny though. Imagine the post tramautic stress and recurring nightmares you'd have. what a nightmare, only having a Paintball gun in zombie situation... good thing I'm semi prepared for that. anyone else notice that the PB gun didn't seem to have a hopper?
the naked prophet
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That is an unloaded "stingray" paintball gun - there is gas to make it cycle, but no paintballs. They turned up the gas flow, which makes it pretty loud (like a .22 pistol) and makes quite a cloud of gas come out the barrel. It also appears that they put a light in the barrel so the cloud of gas appears to be a muzzle flash. All the operators in the hidden room appeared to be setting off the squibs on the zombie actors to make it appear that they had been shot.
On that note, only someone in a gun-deprived culture such as England could be duped by an unloaded paintball gun.
Would be an interesting idea, if it could actually work.
On that note, only someone in a gun-deprived culture such as England could be duped by an unloaded paintball gun.
Would be an interesting idea, if it could actually work.
Lo.Com.Denom
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Derren Brown is officially an evil ****.
The presenter is Derren Brown, a "psychological illusionist" who has a TV show here in the UK. Judging by his previous work, I'd say that he genuinely did hypnotise that poor sap. He regularly does equally amazing/wrong-headed things to members of the public and, usually, he'll show the stunts which didn't work, as well. He's the same guy who played Russian-roulette on live broadcast. And no, he rarely uses his powers for good...
Some how, I managed to miss this when it was shown on TV last time.
I think some of you are missing the point about the fake gun. The guy was hypnotised -- he could have been given a dishcloth and told it was Betty Page and believed it. In that state, if it looks like a gun, sounds like a gun and makes the undead hordes fall over like a gun -- then it's a gun! Would love to know how Mr. Brown ensured that matey didn't beat a zombie to death with it instead, though. Uh, he did make sure of that, didn't he?
Oh, and notice how his "friends" just went along with it, without question? Just as well he seemed to have enjoyed the experience, in the end.
The presenter is Derren Brown, a "psychological illusionist" who has a TV show here in the UK. Judging by his previous work, I'd say that he genuinely did hypnotise that poor sap. He regularly does equally amazing/wrong-headed things to members of the public and, usually, he'll show the stunts which didn't work, as well. He's the same guy who played Russian-roulette on live broadcast. And no, he rarely uses his powers for good...
Some how, I managed to miss this when it was shown on TV last time.
I think some of you are missing the point about the fake gun. The guy was hypnotised -- he could have been given a dishcloth and told it was Betty Page and believed it. In that state, if it looks like a gun, sounds like a gun and makes the undead hordes fall over like a gun -- then it's a gun! Would love to know how Mr. Brown ensured that matey didn't beat a zombie to death with it instead, though. Uh, he did make sure of that, didn't he?
Oh, and notice how his "friends" just went along with it, without question? Just as well he seemed to have enjoyed the experience, in the end.
Lupinus
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dude...I wanna play! 
Seriously that game would actually be worth the money lol
Few notes though-
The guy wasn't asleep, he was hypnotized. Hypnotized people can be easily controled and made to do most of the things a very obediant fully awake and aware person would be able to be made to do, only difference is you can also alter their mental state and have them be unaware of what happened while hypnotized.
Yes it was a fake gun but keep two things in mind. First that the UK isn't exactally a gun culture so he likely wouldn't know the difference half as well as any of us. Also dude just woke up inside of the game he was playing with zombies trying to eat him, I seriously doubt that what kind of gun is this really was top of the list in his mind lol.
Frankly I couldn't be one of the zombies I'd end up laughing at the poor guy and ruining it lol. But I wanna know when they are touring the game around the states I wanna play.
Seriously that game would actually be worth the money lol
Few notes though-
The guy wasn't asleep, he was hypnotized. Hypnotized people can be easily controled and made to do most of the things a very obediant fully awake and aware person would be able to be made to do, only difference is you can also alter their mental state and have them be unaware of what happened while hypnotized.
Yes it was a fake gun but keep two things in mind. First that the UK isn't exactally a gun culture so he likely wouldn't know the difference half as well as any of us. Also dude just woke up inside of the game he was playing with zombies trying to eat him, I seriously doubt that what kind of gun is this really was top of the list in his mind lol.
Frankly I couldn't be one of the zombies I'd end up laughing at the poor guy and ruining it lol. But I wanna know when they are touring the game around the states I wanna play.
If Derren Brown did that to me he would have to join the Martian Foreign Legion when I heard found out what happened. The French Foreign Legion wouldn't nearly be far enough.
Just think of the possibilities if someone got physically or emotionally messed up in a stunt like this. I'll bet there weren't any waivers or informed consent. On the other hand, a creative prosecutor could come up with things like "Kidnapping" "Unlawful Restraint" "Menacing" "Behavior Likely to Constitute a Breach of the Peace" "Aggravated Assault" and at least half a dozen others. What the civil suit would do to him doesn't even bear thinking about.
What happens if the victim decides he's in real danger and pulls out his backup gun or draws his knife for a last stand? Suppose he doesn't have either but has the strength and ruthlessness born of terror and desperation. What if the put-him-to-sleep command doesn't work? A healthy young man under extreme fright could easily kill or cripple several of the actors. Odds are the hypnotist would end up riding the pipe for the murders. Even better, what happens if they chose someone with a weak heart who keeled over and died during the joke?
If it's real it's a stupid motherloving stunt, and the perpetrator deserves to be kicked in the crotch with steel-toed boots many, many times.
Just think of the possibilities if someone got physically or emotionally messed up in a stunt like this. I'll bet there weren't any waivers or informed consent. On the other hand, a creative prosecutor could come up with things like "Kidnapping" "Unlawful Restraint" "Menacing" "Behavior Likely to Constitute a Breach of the Peace" "Aggravated Assault" and at least half a dozen others. What the civil suit would do to him doesn't even bear thinking about.
What happens if the victim decides he's in real danger and pulls out his backup gun or draws his knife for a last stand? Suppose he doesn't have either but has the strength and ruthlessness born of terror and desperation. What if the put-him-to-sleep command doesn't work? A healthy young man under extreme fright could easily kill or cripple several of the actors. Odds are the hypnotist would end up riding the pipe for the murders. Even better, what happens if they chose someone with a weak heart who keeled over and died during the joke?
If it's real it's a stupid motherloving stunt, and the perpetrator deserves to be kicked in the crotch with steel-toed boots many, many times.
mindwip
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That whole thing was a set up sorry, done just for fun sorry.
He was not hypnotized, he was acting.
Plus hypnotized does not really work at all sorry. All it is is massive peer pressure and the ability for the hypnotized person to have a out. For example he can say that the reason he ran around like a chicken for a hour was becuase he was hypnotized, not becuase HE WANTED the attention
NO hypnotized person will EVER do something they dont WANT to do period.
He was not hypnotized, he was acting.
Plus hypnotized does not really work at all sorry. All it is is massive peer pressure and the ability for the hypnotized person to have a out. For example he can say that the reason he ran around like a chicken for a hour was becuase he was hypnotized, not becuase HE WANTED the attention
NO hypnotized person will EVER do something they dont WANT to do period.
Hyponotism is not quite the mind-control phenomena that people think it is. Under "hypnosis" a person mantains every single aspect of their personality, which includes all moral and decision making faculties. And they only "forget" what happened if they *want* to forget it.
rageofangels
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Tag for awesomeness because zombies are always interesting to talk about.
And my firewall wont let me watch the video.
And my firewall wont let me watch the video.
Lo.Com.Denom
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It works for some people and not others. Brown stated that this particular technique would only work for about 1/3rd of the population and he has demonstrated his talents many times over. Believe what you like, but Brown has done a lot of TV and an awful lot of live shows. One would think that he'd have been found out by now, if he was not genuine.
Agreed. Hypnotism is a two-way street. I don't think that I've ever heard a hypnotist claim otherwise. The big grin on that guy's face at the end says to me that, indeed, he subconciously wanted to go along with the ruse.
mindwip
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Thats the whole point its a live SHOW, let me guess he picked poeple out of the Show who "never saw him before"
Two ways to do it,
One pick members in the seats that are on your payroll how most magic is done period
OR two this one works best.
The reason that it only works on 1/3 of the population is that 1/3 of the population will do anything for attention.
Why do you think he ask for volunteers, becuase those are the poeple most likely to go along with the show of there own free will. And the test he does be fore hand to test there ablity to be put under simply gets rid of those who wont give as good of a show.
Even if he were to pick a random sample you get the same result.
As an average person how how many times have you been put on camara, if your at a show and they want you to comform most likely you will, you want to be liked and show off, your 15mins of fame. All magic/Hypnotism is based on humans wanting to be liked, accepted, and mystified
he has, just most poeple dont want to know. OR dont care
I have done hyponotism and magic at some friends partys its not that hard, you just have to be a true con man, meaning confidence man, if you belive it others will to. Also after doing this stuff for a while you can start to pick poeple out of a crowd that will go along, you just know by there body language
if you dont believe me
http://http://www.simonsingh.net/Derren_Brown_Article.html
mindwip
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lol i can see a friend of mine saying that and meaning it too.
M249MachineGun
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Could I survive the zombies?
I think a better question is "could the zombies survive me?"
As for the video, I don't believe it. For one thing, to get someone hypnotized in the first place, you would have to take several minutes to slowly put them into that state with repeated calming exercises. No one gets hypnotized when they aren't trying to be.
I think a better question is "could the zombies survive me?"
As for the video, I don't believe it. For one thing, to get someone hypnotized in the first place, you would have to take several minutes to slowly put them into that state with repeated calming exercises. No one gets hypnotized when they aren't trying to be.
Working Man
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I think it is BS but if it was not, then I would have a real problem with my
so called friends letting some guy carry me out of a pub and strap me
to a stretcher.
For all they know I just got ruffied and now these dopes are following this
guy to a location where he has total control.
News flash.... 3 robed, raped, and mutilated bodies were found today because
the victims were so stupid they blindly trusted a guy with a cameraman.
so called friends letting some guy carry me out of a pub and strap me
to a stretcher.
For all they know I just got ruffied and now these dopes are following this
guy to a location where he has total control.
News flash.... 3 robed, raped, and mutilated bodies were found today because
the victims were so stupid they blindly trusted a guy with a cameraman.
Its not a matter of him being a fraud or anything. The debate is about the actual nature of what hypnosis is. Generally there is not change of mind or anything like that. Hypnosis works because it gives the subject an opportunity to behave in a manner without inhibition. There is no "control" angle because the person under hypnosis does not at any time lose their sense of consciousness of self. In fact by the strictest definition hypnosis doesnt involve any change of a persons mentality whatsoever. It only works because a person wants to be hypnotized.
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