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cmichael,
what is it about you and Keith that means you cannot admit fault?
what is it about you and Keith that means you cannot admit fault?
I documented 13 separate investigations all concluding it wasn't an accident. Yet you still don't accept it
Flying a Mirage III fighter jet code named "Kursa" or couch, Spector was the first pilot to reach the ship, which was about 20 nautical miles west of Gaza. He had been on an air-to-air mission and was not loaded with bombs.
As the crew labored to tend to the wounded, extinguish the fire, and burn classified papers, contact was finally made with the Sixth Fleet. "Help is on the way," replied the carrier America, which quickly unleashed eight of its most readily available warplanes - F-104s armed with nuclear weapons.
Um, if Israel committed a "war crime" here, then the US has committed thousands. We kill our allies all the time.
Call me oversensitive, but whenever I hear "war crime" used with "Israel," my radar gets all kinds of pips on it.
"At 10.55 hours the Naval Liaison Officer at Air Force H.Q. reported to the Navy H.Q. that the ship about which he had reported earlier in the morning was an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S. Navy, named Liberty, whose marking was G.T.R.-5. At the same time, the Acting Chief of Naval Operations was present at Navy H.Q.
"Upon receiving the information from the reconnaissance aircraft about the location of the ship, as mentioned above, it was marked on the Combat Information Centre Table at Navy H.Q. At first the object was marked in red, meaning an unidentified target; afterwards, when the ship was identified as a supply vessel of the American Navy, it was marked in green, i.e. a neutral ship. At about 11.00 hours, after the Acting Chief of Naval Operations had received the report, as above stated, from the Liaison Officer at Air Force H.Q., and had understood, as he testified, that it referred to the target, the location of which was correct at 06.00 in the morning, he ordered its erasure from the table, since he had no information as to its location at the time of the report."
On 5 June, Israel and Egypt informed the President of the Security Council that fighting had broken out. The Council met at once, but a proposal to order an immediate cease-fire was blocked by Egypt, India and the Soviet Union. The extent of the Egyptian débacle had not yet reached New York. The next day, when it was realized that Egypt had suffered a devastating defeat, the Council adopted a cease-fire Resolution, unanimously and without debate.
On the evening of 6 June, the Council adopted unanimously, without debate, as resolution 233 (1967), a draft text introduced by the President by which it: (1) called upon the Governments concerned to take forthwith, as a first step, all measures for an immediate cease-fire and cessation of all military activities in the area; and (2) requested the Secretary-General to keep the Council promptly and currently informed on the situation. (For full text, see DOCUMENTARY REFERENCES below.)
The United States representative stressed that adoption of the resolution calling for a cease-fire, which his Government had been urging for 36 hours, was the first step towards peace in the Middle East, and expressed his fervent hope that the Council's appeal would be immediately and fully complied with.
The representatives of the United Kingdom and the United States, denying categorically charges that their aircraft had been involved in the hostilities in the Near East, stated that they would welcome an investigation by the United Nations.
iii) thirteen separate investigations (some of which arent anything of the kind btw) tend to show that justice has not been achieved by any of them -why have thirteen when one will do?
Justice wasn't achieved because they didn't reach conclusions that you wanted them to.
However, good luck. These are thirteen investigations at many different levels. Even sources that you used concluded that it was an accident.
So their conclusions are suspect according to you because there were too many investigations. That is interesting logic.