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Cross-racial shootings?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by hankdatank1362, Nov 1, 2007.

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  1. hankdatank1362

    hankdatank1362 Member

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    I was wondering if anyone here could help me out with a paper I have to write. Does anyone have any links to any stories concerning police officers using deadly force on someone of another color, thereby triggering any sort of racial instability in the community? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. Kentak

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    2001 Cincinnati riots

    Just Google that and you'll get plenty of links.

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  3. MachIVshooter

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    Seems to be the case every single time on some level.
     
  4. trueblue1776

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    Uh yeah, pretty much any cop shooting that draws attention was cross racial.

    The best ones were:

    The groom outside a strip club before his wedding night.
    The African immigrant in NYC.
    Bunch of border patrol shootings.

    Call the Rainbow coalition, they would be happy to fill you in on why whitey shoots blackie. If you do, try to post the highlights, as most of us find JJ and Al to be hilarious.
     
  5. Deanimator

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    Check out the Chicago Tribune and Sun Times websites. There have been a number of police shootings in recent months.

    In Chicago these shootings are complicated by a number of issues:

    1. Community "activists" portray ANY police shooting as wrongful, regardless of the circumstances. Stories by suspects and their families which a five year old should sneer at are taken at face value.

    2. The Chicago Police Department has such an ABYSMAL record of violent crime, misconduct and lying to the public that ANY statements by police are [rightfully] viewed with skepticism. This leads to nonsense tales by criminals being taken seriously where they never ought to.

    The result is a death spiral induced by liars who mindlessly support or condemn the police, totally divorced from truth and reality.

    In Chicago, it's not the good guys vs. the bad guys. It's the bad guys vs. the worse guys. It's up to the individual to judge for himself which is which.
     
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    Well, it wasnt a shooting, but I'm sure everyone remembers Rodney King's beatdown at the hands of LA's finest.
     
  7. KBintheSLC

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    Deanimator...

    Cleverly put.
     
  8. sterling180

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    Well,I've read an article from the Socialist Worker's paper about the infamous Special Patrol Group department,of the Greater London Metropolitan Police deapartment,detailing Blair Peach's supposed murder,by cops from this department in 1977 and from incidents in 1981,during the Brixton riots and in 1985,when one black womans front door was smashed in with a sledgehammer and she was shot in the back and cripped,by an SPG cops .38 revolver.This was possibly in revenge for the death of PC Keith Blakelock who was stabbed to death in 1985,during the Broadwater Farm riots,in Tottenham,North London.The woman was suspected of shielding the identity of Blakelock's murderer/s and so the heavy-mob went over,to teach her a lesson-although they or he,have never been caught-so although the case is over 22 years old,it's still open.

    The death of Blair Peach,was caused presumably by pickaxe handles,baseball bats and sledgehammers and one or this particular operation was nicknamed 'Operation n*gger hunt' or something similar.Some cops were linked to neo-Nazi organizations such as the National Front and Nazi materials were found at these cops homes,during a search.

    Just think those incidents happend in the 70s and 80s and these incidents rarely happen now.A world away from the modern Britain.

    I'll see if I can find the link,linking these events to the relevant articles.
    Ah,well here's one about Blair Peach's demise in the Southall riots,in 1977.
    http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=393
     
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    Talk about your coincidences!

    I remember hearing a US National Public Radio segment in the late '80s or early '90s about racially motivated violence in the UK. One of the incidents cited, lined up almost EXACTLY with your quote above. The only real difference was the lack of a police tie-in...
     
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    Yes,well unfortunately these terrible events,were a result of genuine racists in the force,as the screening proceedures to weed them out,weren't really around then and also the 'old-school' cops(Not racist,but harsh in disciplinary methods and enforcement values.),believed most black males and youths to be trouble makers anyway and so when you have this combination of personality types,in a police department or in the force in general-it can be quite explosive.
     
  11. Deanimator

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    Last year(?) a couple of Cleveland, OH cops started a racially motivated bar fight. They were charged and tried for a variety of offenses. One (who was cold-cocked by the victim in seconds) was convicted of a minor offense. The other was acquitted. Both are... pursuing other opportunities... other than law enforcement, after being fired.

    I remember noting at the time that you NEVER hear about the sort of racially motivated home invasions described in the NPR story in the US, simply because the perpetrators would get shot to doll rags.
     
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    Tyron Lewis in St Petersberg shot dead in a stolen car by a white officer. Both the incedent and the "wrong" out come after the investigation caused riots. Henry Cisernos (sp?) promised millions of Uncle Sam's dollars to make things right. As far as I know the money never got to St Pete.
     
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    Thanks everyone for your help. I want to not only write aboput all the actual wrongs commited by actual racist LEOs, but also officers that were scrutinized by the media, yet vindicated in their actions.

    Keep 'em comin', if ya got more! Thanx again!
     
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    After just about any police shooting in Hartford, when the officer is white and the perp is black, the black community is out in force crying foul. Currentely, one officer, Lawlor, is facing manslaughter charges for shooting a black suspect, whom he claimed used his vehicle as a weapon after he and an ATF agent confronted the vehicle because of a potential gun sighting. The shooting was ruled by the department to be a good shoot, yet the states atty. still went to a grand jury, got an indictment, and a perfectly good cop is being run through the ringer.
     
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    Pretty much any sort of police action involving whites and non-whites is called "racist". Take your pic.
     
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    City of Austin(TX) has had a few dramas over the past ten years involving cross cultural police shootings.
     
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    Yet nobody seems to raise an eyebrow when it's the other way around. HMMM? No protest in front of the courthouse and no candlelight vigils.
     
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    [SIDELIGHT]
    Interesting sidelight on this?

    Since the British Police don't carry firearms, they resort to alternatives...

    Do I smell a lesson there?

    Indeed, I think I do.
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  19. The Annoyed Man

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    Rodney King was from Altadena, California. I was living in Altadena at the time he got his ass whooped. King already had a local reputation as a bad man. What happened with the LAPD is really TWO issues:

    1. Why was he stopped in the first place?

    2. Why did he get beat like that after he was stopped?

    Answers:

    1. He was driving in a manner indicating that he was probably intoxicated. (King was a known PCP user.)

    2. He got snotty with the cops, and they put him down and cuffed him. For those of you who don't know King, he is a LARGE and physically imposing individual. He refused to comply with police orders, and he kept trying to get up. He was resisting arrest. You resist arrest, don't expect to be treated with kid gloves. He got beat because he was not complying.

    Did the cops over-react and beat him too much? Possibly, but the blame for that lays squarely on King's shoulders for steadfastly and physically refusing to comply with their orders after he was under arrest. If he had acted reasonably, he would have most likely been treated reasonably. He made his bed, and then he didn't want to sleep in it.

    Also, where King got stopped, it is a semi-rural area.

    http://www.courttv.com/archive/casefiles/rodneyking/:
    It was L.A.'s news media that made it into a race thing. If I recall correctly, what often gets left out of the story is that one of the officers on the scene is a black man. Although he did not participate in the beating, neither did he make any effort to stop it. Certainly, the LAPD had a record at the time of brutality, but even a broken clock is a right twice a day. In this particular case, the preponderance of the blame for the beating AND all of the fallout that erupted because of it lies on Rodney King's shoulders.
     
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    Just happened in the Norfolk area..didn't incite riots but of course one of the first things said is the perp was shot only because he was black, not because umm maybe shooting at the cops is a bad thing...
     
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    Check for any NYPD shooting or look up Al Sharpton and it will probably give all causes he has been involved in. Quite a few involve shootings.
     
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    The Brandon McCloud shooting caused a huge controversy which led to at least three investigations by the county coroner, the FBI and a retired judge. Plus the usual demonstrations and even now is still in the news because the two officers involved are suing the City of Cleveland while they are being sued by McCloud's family.

    Here a two-part article about it:

    http://www.freetimes.com/stories/14/41/suspect-down-officers-involved
     
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    They're beating the proverbial dead horse.

    I'm so critical of police, I sometimes make Al Sharpton sound like Shawn Hannity, but I don't see it.

    If you're listing ways to AVOID being shot by the police, you SHOULDN'T include "jumping out of a closet at police, clutching a knife". Of course "DON"T BE AN ARMED ROBBER" should be right at the top of the list.

    Unlike Patrick Dorismond or Michael Pleasance, McCloud wasn't the victim of police misconduct. He was the victim of his own stupidity.
     
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    http://www.nbc15online.com/news/loc...=1af91cd3-70b1-4902-94f7-86025dd05b0e&rss=217

    Here's one from yesterday, no confirmation on whether the undercover deputy was white, but if he's mobile co. there's a good chance.

    Highlights include:

    and:

    Sounds like this guy was on his way to the scout lodge when he was murdered for no reason. :D:D:D:D
     
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    WRONG,The Special Patrol Group were licensed to carry Smith and Wesson .38 revolvers and booked them out quite frequently,to use as frighteners,in the guise that they would be sitting ducks,from black gunmen.Detective Sergent/SO19 Sergent Roger Gray,a famous ex-LEO,was a member of the SPG,in the 70s upto about 1986,when it was disbandoed,due to racism(From what I've heard and replaced by another unit.).But coshes and pixaxe handles were used to beat people up,during riots and incidents,not involving guns,such as breaking in and arresting petty crooks.

    The Flying Squad or Serious and Organized,nowdays,weren't no different to the SPG in the 70s and 80s,but they got income from being on mobsters payrolls and from the porn trade,in Soho-so they wanted to safeguard their cushy,lucrative-on the side-incomes,but were exposed in 1977 and members were jailed,including the cheif.
     
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