Crossbreed Holsters

[Hunter125]

I am considering getting a Crossbreed Supertuck for my XDm .40. I was wondering what options you guys who use one of these on a regular basis would suggest or what you prefer. I want to know about things like the combat cut, what kind of clips you use, what kind of leather you like best, etc. Also if you have a different holster you prefer over the Crossbreed and would serve the same purpose, I would like to hear about it.

 

[Zerodefect]

Best IWB holster ever!

Just use some talcom powder or something to keep it from creaking when it's new.

I carry mine at 5oclock for mid sized guns. 3-4 for mouses in a minituck. I prefer the box stock cut and stock metal clips. You can do the combat cut yourself if you want quicker draws, but the full cut is more comfortable.

 

[herkyguy]

great holster. I carry a XD SC 9mm with the standard black leather supertuck. nothing fancy about it but it is the best holster i've ever used. I have one for my revolver as well. i don't see a need for any of the options since it comes ready to rock in the 'stock' setup.

 

[Carter]

Its unbeatable. I just have the standard options on mine. Wouldn't buy any other holster for my carry gun.


Their gun belt is amazing as well.

 

[2WheelsGood]

Also if you have a different holster you prefer over the Crossbreed and would serve the same purpose, I would like to hear about it.

I know Crossbreed has a great following, but I prefer the Comp-Tac Minotaur. Very similar, but one crucial difference: how the retention works.

The very first holster I bought for my Walther PPS was a Crossbreed. The first time I put the gun in, I literally couldn't get it back out. With the holster in one hand and the gun in the other, I wrestled for five minutes to get them apart.

The problem is that Crossbreed molds a "bulge" where the ejection port is to aid in retention. My PPS has an extremely sharp edge on the top of the ejection port, and that edge dug so deeply into the Kydex that I couldn't get the gun back out. After sanding that spot on the inside of the holster it worked much better. But not good enough to inspire any confidence drawing quickly.

So I ended up buying a Comp-Tac Minotaur, which has several advantages, and one disadvantage. The first advantage is no bulge at the ejection port. Second, retention is easy to fine-tune via two allen bolts. Third, the Kydex half-shells can be swapped out for different guns. Fourth, you don't need to order the combat cut to facilitate quick draw; it's already cut that way. Fifth, the leather covers the back, so the metal nuts are covered. The one disadvantage is that the clips are plastic. I haven't had any problems so far, but I think the metal clips on the Crossbreed are nicer.

I'm sure my problems had as much to do with my model of gun as the holster itself. If the ejection port hadn't been so sharp, it probably would have been OK.

As it is, I'm extremely happy with the Comp-Tac. Actually, I also have a Comp-Tac Infidel. The Infidel is great because it's really fast to take on and off my belt, but for long wear the Minotaur can't be beat.

 

[swinokur]

Horsehide is a good option if you carry a lot in hot humid climates and tend to sweat. Horsehide is more dense and resists sweat better. Only thing is you cannot get it in black because it can't be dyed. No one sees it so no big deal IMO.

Some folks like the combat cut because for some it gives a better grip. I suggest not getting it and if you decide you want it you can make the cut yourself.

I use metal clips no issues

 

[bigfatdave]

Sanding?
You know Kydex can be heat-molded, right? My PPS holster came about perfect, I tweaked it a bit after the leather wore in and molded to the gun.

Options:
combat cut - meh, i carry more than I draw and I can carry anywhere all the time with a CB ST unless there's a metal detector
horsehide - sometimes I wish I'd taken the HH option, but there's nothing wrong with cowhide
clips - stock embossed are pretty damn nice, I don't like the crosses but they're tough and discreet enough for the rare occasions I tuck
cant - mess with it yourself, i like a forward cant of about two holes' difference for concealment AND draw comfort

You'll need a good belt, that department-store belt you think will do just fine won't, really.
Crossbreed makes a pretty damn good belt, BeltMan makes an even better one, and makes one in horsehide ... I have one of each (CB, BM bull, BM horse) and the BM horsehide is the best belt I've ever owned, followed by the BM bull. The CB belt makes a really good workbelt, I rarely wear it other than on the job.

 

[2WheelsGood]

Sanding?
You know Kydex can be heat-molded, right?

You're misunderstanding. The top edge of the ejection port dug so deep into the Kydex that by the time I finally got the gun back out, it left a good sized notch in the Kydex. I only sanded the notch so that it was smooth again. Maybe for whatever reason your PPS isn't as sharp as mine. Regardless, the "hairdryer method" is undoubtedly inferior to the truly adjustable allen bolts.

combat cut - meh, i carry more than I draw

Um, yeah, I would hope you carry it more than you draw. I'm not sure what that means. I'm talking about drawing the gun under some threat and knowing that it's going to come out consistently and reliably. My Crossbreed didn't give me that confidence at all.

I'm not bashing Crossbreed. I think they make wonderful stuff. But there are a couple things that could be improved upon that would make their products truly unmatched.

 

[herkyguy]

adjusting the cant makes drawing much easier. that's one benefit of the crossbreed - using the adjustable clips and four holes to find just the right cant for your body type.

 

[2WheelsGood]

adjusting the cant makes drawing much easier. that's one benefit of the crossbreed

I'm not sure if you meant that as a comparison to the Comp-Tac, but the Comp-Tac is fully adjustable as well.

 

[G27RR]

I know it's personal preference, but I never could get the CompTac to be as comfortable as the Crossbreeds. CompTac makes a good product it just didn't work for me.

Horsehide is my preference, no combat cut.

I used to use Crossbreed holsters all the time, but I switched over to the all leather Tucker Gunleather "Texas Heritage" and it's even more comfortable.

Crossbreed


Tucker Gunleather



If you want a Crossbreed and don't need the double clips, the QwikClip is nice.

 

[Mudinyeri]

After trying many holsters, including the MTAC from Comp-Tac, I've settled on the CrossBreed lineup.

The Kydex of my MTAC crushed when I drew my gun making re-holstering difficult and dangerous.

Personally, I practice a LOT so I draw and re-holster a lot. If you don't practice drawing your carry gun(s), I suppose that's not an issue. (You may have other issues when/if the time comes to actually use your weapon, but that's another thread.)

I've done my own combat cut on all my CrossBreed holsters. I even cut down one of their MiniTuck holsters and made it into a MicroTuck for my Kahr PM9.

I also wear nothing but horsehide. It's more comfortable and holds up better in hot/humid weather.

 

[bigfatdave]

My Crossbreed didn't give me that confidence at all.

I think you got one spot over-molded to the ejection port, I doubt my PPS and yours have significantly different port shapes, the difference must be in the molding of the Kydex at the CB facility.
It isn't tension, it is shape ... if you had made your shelf into a ramp with a few minutes of molding I think you would have been able to draw just fine, and CB would have done it for you if you didn't want to wield a hairdryer for a few minutes (although I can't imagine why it wouldn't be a home tweak)

In the long run you'll need to tweak Kydex as the leather molds to your hip and the gun anyway, minor tweaks to retention aren't a big deal as far as I'm concerned, just part of maintenance ... every 6 months or so clean holster, re-treat leather with Obenauf's LP, and tweak retention if needed. I think I've adjusted retention twice, both times to make it a bit tighter at the EP and TG.

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G27RR, I have Tucker's mag carrier and I love it except for one thing, I have to re-shape Tucker's clips too damn often (and as you can see above, I don't mind a bit of heat-molding once in a while)
Do you have the same problem or have you swapped out the clips?

 

[G27RR]

I haven't had a problem with the clips. I use the hooks like the one in this photo more than the j hooks though, so maybe that is the difference?

This is the "Cover Up" model with rough side out to help it stay in place since it only uses the one hook. Works great for officer and commander sized 1911s.

 

[ForumSurfer]

I use a $50 crossbreed knockoff. Quality is outstanding. Been carrying a g19 in it for sometime. Works fine no matter how I am dressed.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=545040

 

[LiquidTension]

I have a SuperTuck and I really despise it. It is simply too big to be comfortable. I have to unbuckle my belt, unbutton my pants, and unzip the zipper to put the thing on. I guess making the rough side out is supposed to help keep it in place, but guess what else it does? It un-tucks your t-shirt for you. Then you not only have rough leather against your skin, you have a shirt bunched up around the holster. Definitely get the combat cut. I didn't and I regret it. I don't like not being able to get a full grip before coming out of the holster.

I had a COM3 from HBE that I loved and I never had to half undress to put it on. Eric is making another one for me and as soon as it's done, the CB is going up for sale. I can't wait to get rid of it.

 

[Mudinyeri]

I have a SuperTuck and I really despise it. It is simply too big to be comfortable. I have to unbuckle my belt, unbutton my pants, and unzip the zipper to put the thing on. I guess making the rough side out is supposed to help keep it in place, but guess what else it does? It un-tucks your t-shirt for you. Then you not only have rough leather against your skin, you have a shirt bunched up around the holster. Definitely get the combat cut. I didn't and I regret it. I don't like not being able to get a full grip before coming out of the holster.

I had a COM3 from HBE that I loved and I never had to half undress to put it on. Eric is making another one for me and as soon as it's done, the CB is going up for sale. I can't wait to get rid of it.

What (gun) model CrossBreed do you have? Is it cow hide or horse hide? I might be willing to take it off your hands if it's for a model that I don't already have. I have none of your complaints and own five different CrossBreed IWB holsters.

If you decide to keep your CrossBreed, you can easily make your own combat cut. I've done it to all of mine. I also cut down a MiniTuck, changed out the belt clip and made it into a MicroTuck.

 

[Thlax]

I ordered a cross bread IWB with horse hide for my g23. Should be here in a week or two.

Also ordered their gun belt in brown because I did not have a proper gun belt. Considering how many people say the belt is just as import, I decided both from crossbreed couldn't hurt!

 

[bigfatdave]

I have to unbuckle my belt, unbutton my pants, and unzip the zipper to put the thing on.

It isn't designed to go on and off every 5 minutes, you know.
Attach holster to belted pants
Apply pants to legs and underpants area
apply pants closure devices and buckle belt snugly
if gun is not in holster, place gun in holster
... go about your day ...
at end of day, remove pants
place holstered gun in handy spot
enjoy nappy time
...repeat for next day

 

[Storz]

Just got my Supertuck Horsehide in today. wearing it right now with an Uncle Mikes Instructor belt and hardly notice its there at all

 

[Capp35]

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1194122&highlight=crossbreed

 

[heeler]

I am glad LiquidTension mentioned what he did and not so someone could bash what many if not most consider a nice holster.
As one who is probably doing waaaay to much research on holsters I found his comment interesting because one generally hears nothing but high praises about the CB holsters.
I myself have never put one of these on but everytime I see a picture of one I cant even begin to imagine how in the world that big holster with that big slab of leather across your backside could even remotely be comfortable,not to mention the width of it with your gun in place.
But then again what I generally hear is just the opposite.
Maybe I or my body is just different but about the only place I can get even remotely comfortable with a gun down my pants is appendix carry and even then only with a small thin pistol.
Interesting.

 

[ForumSurfer]

I myself have never put one of these on but everytime I see a picture of one I cant even begin to imagine how in the world that big holster with that big slab of leather across your backside could even remotely be comfortable,

It is much more comfortable than you would think. I thought the same thing. After trying one on, my opinion completely changed. That extra wide leather spreads the weight out on your belt. A good belt is still needed.

not to mention the width of it with your gun in place.

An all leather IWB holster is even thicker and an all kydex IWB holster may be uncomfortable to some. If you are sticking the gun IWB, the width is irrelevant because all IWB holsters will have very close thicknesses, unless we're talking all kydex.

[QUOTEMaybe I or my body is just different but about the only place I can get even remotely comfortable with a gun down my pants is appendix carry and even then only with a small thin pistol.
Interesting.][/QUOTE]

Interesting, indeed! I find appendix carry to be the most uncomfortable method ever conceived, unless it is a tiny single stack 380. I'm a little strange, though. I get irritated keeping a spare mag or a cell phone in that area on my belt. I just don't like stuff hanging off of me in that area. 3:00-4:30 are the only areas that feel comfortable for me. Everyone's body and preferences are different.

You can save some serious money experimenting with people's home made "knock off" holsters. You don't sacrifice any functionality. I paid $50 for a crossbreed knockoff from a guy on glocktalk several months ago. I had the holster within 3 business days (very little lead time if any at all from this guy). It works great and holds up well. The molds are excellent and the hardware is steel, so I don't see where the crossbreed or mtac is worth %50 - %100 more than this holster...let alone shipping prices and lead times.

 

[sprale]

I picked up a Kholster on sale over the holidays for $25 and don't regret it a bit. It's probably not quite the same as the Crossbreed, but I find it quite comfortable with both 10 and 17 round magazines in my SR9c, though the larger prints a bit. With the 10 round, not even friends who know I carry can tell. It does the job and came in at the right price.