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CSI--Miami finally gets something right...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by seeker_two, Sep 21, 2004.

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  1. seeker_two

    seeker_two Member

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    The episode on 09/20 made a great point...

    Keep your gun clean & maintained...


    ...your life may depend on it. :cool:


    (CSI gets something right...will wonders never cease... :scrutiny: )
     
  2. Chupacabra

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    One would think Speed had gotten the point the first time it happened. :banghead:

    What a shame. I knew what was going to happen and was hoping he would take at least one bad guy out with him.

    Keep your gun clean and in good working order.
     
  3. Dr.Rob

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    I think this was a plot device to show that while lab techs aren't cops, the guys and gals who do the field work are. This will justify the multimillion dollar shoot outs to follow in the rest of the season.

    Speed screwed up not cleaning his gun before, he was chastized, given a cleaning kit and made the same mistake twice. Possibly the only 'realistic' thing ever on CSI.

    Other than Horatio's attempt at first aid (wipe the blood off his mouth rather than apply pressure to the wound?) I thought it was kind of a cool episode.
     
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  4. Old Dog

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    Having seen only a couple episodes of the show, last night's episode made me think the guy (who was killed) would have been a crappy investigator ... if he lacked the simple attention to detail skills to keep his pistol cleaned (a not very complex task for most of us), I'd submit someone that lazy wouldn't be the person I'd want processing a crime scene.
     
  5. Tory

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    And it was a GLOCK!

    Did he EVER clean his gun? Or change the oil in his car, for that matter? :confused:

    Rack up another one for the Darwin Awards.............
     
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    The thing that struck me-and does so every time I see this happen in the movies or on TV is how guns are fired multiple times in enclosed environments without so much as a ringing ear. I am amazed every time they fire from inside a car or in a very small room or hallway. I guess it's too much to expect accurate depiction from that which is meant to entertain. I wonder how many people fire a gun without wearing hearing protection because they see it done on TV and the movies. Somebody oughta be sued-where's John Edward's law firm when you need them?:neener:
     
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    I don't think so!
     
  8. Mal H

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    I thought it was a SIG. An exceptionally dirty SIG!

    The fault I had with the script was twofold:
    1) Why was the pistol so dirty? He obviously didn't fire it very often. Where did the pile of crud come from? It wasn't a pocket gun.
    2) Why the heck didn't he drop or go for cover instead of just standing there like a lump? And I don't think "lack of training" is going to be the answer. Any human is going to duck for cover automatically in a situation like that.
     
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    Every time I watch CSI:Miami, I'm too busy either watching Cali or waiting for another of her scenes to look for tech errors. :D
     
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    A SIG failing???

    Geez, this show needs a better technical director. :)
     
  11. Tharg

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    Man - missed it - was out of town ... bah - and i don't have it on season pass on my tivo either... oh well - guess i'll check it on the rerun run. =) hehe

    ya its got errors - its hollywood... ;) Right up there w/ believeing that sort of attention is given to crimes "in general"... maybe the lacy perterson/OJ simpson/kobe cases ... not "joey buttafuko got nailed" case... rofl

    J/Tharg!
     
  12. Henry Bowman

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    My wife watches the show. ( It's pretty much one version or the other of CSI or a stupid "reality" show.) I'm often in the room and spend an hour pointing out errors and Hollywood fantasies.

    I saw that episode. Definately not a Glock. Either SIG or Beretta. So what exactly was the malfunction? Did the gunk keep the firing pin from moving enough to hit the primer, or did the gunk hold the slide out of battery? It looked to me like they were suggesting the latter.
     
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    Horatio had a SIG P229.

    Speed had what I think was a Baby Eagle. It was not a Glock or SIG. It may have been a two tone Beretta but I don't think so.

    Chris
     
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    I had a hard time deciding what Speed had as well. The first episode that he got in trouble for not cleaning it, I thought it was a USP.

    I did notice though that on the report that that cute blond lady gave to Horatio at the end, you could briefly see that it said P229.

    harpethriver, I had a cop tell me that one time he was in a shooting in a VERY enclosed space (closet) and didn't remember hearing a thing. :confused:

    He and some other LEOs were clearing a house. He peeked in the closet, saw a machete coming down on him, and then allasudden the guy is dead at his feet. Didn't hear a thing. He screamed out, "What happened?" and the cops that were with him said, "Dude...you shot him."
     
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    I'm not positive, but I think Speed's gun may have been a Smith & Wesson SW99.

    Or cslinger may be right, and it was a baby eagle.
     
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    A busted clock is right twice a day.:D
     
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    Baby Eagle. Jericho/IMI gun. Not anything I've ever seen used by anyone in LE before.
     
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    Massad Ayoob has often referred to a thing called 'auditory exclusion',IIRC,where the hearing is not affected by gunshots.....kinda shuts down the auditory system automatically.
    Too bad we can't switch it on on demand.:cool:
     
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    How about that little flip and roll Horatio did? I cracked up for most of the scene after that.
     
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    the report that was handed to "H" said SigArms at the top right of the document....

    but I didn't see a model # on it....


    out...
     
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    Yep. I agree. The close-up of Speed's holster showed a Baby Eagle/Jerico and the report did clearly say "sigarms".

    At least the dark haired female CSI didn't give a make/model/year/twist rate/finish/grip style/what color the shooters underware were when she picked up the spent .22 shell like she usually does.:p
     
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    I'd like to personally than the sundry CSI shows personally

    for making the life of every for-real evidence technician a living nightmare.

    "No. ma'am we cannot actually tell the make, model and year of the badguy's car by analyzing the pile of feces he left on your kitchen table, and no, there is not a photo-negative image of him, her or it burned onto the retina of your toy poodle who defended your home and hearth by being stuffed into the kitchen wastebasket, presumably not of it's on free will, but by the cranked out tweaker who, with any luck at all will gork out having taken an entire bottle of your husband's angina nitro......."

    BTW, in one academy I am intimately familiar with each candidate is issued a SIG, and proceeds to fire around 1,100 rounds thru it over a week, in any weather, with no maintenance. None. They get an occasional shot of lube when sluggish, but all cleaning is done at the end of the firearms evolutions.
     
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    Guys,
    Don't expect the writers to get it right....they are Hollyweird folks...the report did say Sigarms, but the gun used by Speed definitely did not appear to be a Sig.
    Remember if it's from Hollyweird it's main goal is to provide entertainment (not realism).
    Sorry.
     
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    As a test, I left my P-225 go for over 800 rounds when I first got it. It was dirty, icky, and absolutely cruddy. It kept on working just fine. You would have to be a complete moron to neglect a SIG to the point of failure.
     
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    They never actually showed the report on Speed's gun. The top page in the report was on Horatio's gun, a SIG. I thought Speed's gun was a Ruger when I first saw it, but people on other forums seem to have confirmed it as a Baby Eagle. BTW, Speed's gun in the other episode involving a malfunction was a SIG.
     
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