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CT Micro-Stamping Bill Will Ban Handguns

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by statelineblues, Mar 14, 2009.

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  1. statelineblues

    statelineblues Member

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    Attention Connecticut handgun owners! We need to knock this bill out -

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    This came from the NRA-ILA Alerts

    (Mods, if this has been posted already, please merge it with other threads - thanks!)
     
  2. Mr_Rogers

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    You all get together pool your pennies, sue the State then strike another blow for the 2nd.

    It seems pretty clear that this is more than a "reasonable" restriction in that, since microstamped firearms are not available, this is a De Facto ban.

    Actually, the whole idea is going nowhere but the more noise CT gun owners make the sooner this idea will end up in that happy location.
     
  3. Shear_stress

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    Senator "Looney"? Seriously?
     
  4. distra

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    Send my emails yesterday. Most of shooting buds have called or emailed the Judiciary committee members. I'm calling them Monday morning first thing. I don't think this will get out of committee, but I've already contacted both my state senators. Nip this garbage in the bud! :cuss:
     
  5. statelineblues

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    Posted by Shear_stress:

    Yes, really...

    He represents New Haven and Hamden Districts.
     
  6. gbran

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    Of course it bans handguns. That is the true intent.
     
  7. hso

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    Ask them how much of a kickback they're getting from the company promoting this?

    ID Dynamics is the only one and they focus on getting legislation passed to make their useless product commercially viable. That's monopolistic and something that Mr. Looney should have his nose rubbed in.

    Technical problems with applying microstamping abound.

    * Stamped casing can only be traced to the last registered owner, not to the person who used the gun when the casings were stamped. In the case of a stolen gun, as is the case for most firearms used in crime, the stamped case would not lead to the criminal.

    * High costs for testing the efficacy of the technique must be passed on to customers, increasing the cost of firearms for those who obtain them legally.

    * Microstamping is easily defeated. Diamond coated files are inexpensive and will remove microstamping. Firing pins are normally replaceable and can be changed with simple tools or without tools. Marked components such as slides, barrels, firing pins and ejectors are all easily and commonly replaced items.

    * Microstamping is an immature, sole source technology, and has not been subjected to sufficient independent testing. Transfer of microstamped marks to the cases is less reliable than proponents claim.

    * Microstamping would be irrelevant/non-applicable for revolvers they do not eject shell cases.
     
  8. Hungry Seagull

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    Then it's time we learn how to make ammuntion that burns off totally, leaving nothing behind to eject.
     
  9. cauberallies

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    Hungry Seagull, such ammunition already exists. I forget exactly what uses it, but it is a HK rifle/carbine of some sort.
     
  10. Boba Fett

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    Link?




    You mean something like this? ;)
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  11. HeavenlySword

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    LOL @ the flintlocks

    No, he means the HK G11 prototypes. They were using advanced caseless ammunition, allowing for less weight per round, more power for weight, and also a theoretically higher cyclic rate of fire as there was no ejection cycle, However, the weapon heated up much faster as brass serves as an heat sink in conventional weaponry.
     
  12. lanternlad1

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    Or use revolvers.

    Or a brass catching bag.

    Or pick up brass from someone else and strew them at the crime scene.
     
  13. Schleprok62

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    Of several different calibers from several different sources... Brass is easily collected from any range... indoor or outdoor... yeah... that'll really throw CSI into a tizzy...
     
  14. Hungry Seagull

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    No no no... LOL at some of the stuff in reply...

    Tossing down range brass at a crime scene will throw off the LEO's in a "Post-Stamp" crime in the future.

    My intent was to have ammo such as used for the G11 burn off totally, leaving no stamps behind for anyone to worry about.

    What's next? Vanishing ammo? Buy and shoot within a week or lose it to evaporation?
     
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    Let me make sure I understand this. This tech is supposed to use the gun to stamp the BRASS, right, and not the primer or bullet?

    So what happens if the brass is reloaded five times and shot in five different guns before it's fired in the last one?

    jm
     
  16. statelineblues

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    hso (and everybody else, too) - Thanks; that's some more "ammunition" we can use...
     
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    Bleh, unfortunatly I have no way of getting to the hearing, since I somehow doubt anything that happens will end up on the news...:rolleyes: Post an update here if ya can on how it goes.
     
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    N003K, Please call or email the Judiciary Committee if you have time. I can't make it either, but LOTS of folks from our club are heading over. I've already made contact with my two senators as well.
     
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    Oh, I took care of that already, I did it once when I heard it first was in committee, did it once when I got the NRA Email the other day, and I may send another one tonight.
     
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    OMG we have to ban reloading!
     
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    "Senator Looney"... Migawd, you can't make this stuff up...
     
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    IIRC, Daisy (of BB gun fame) made a caseless .22 rifle about 30 yrs ago. It didn't have a firing pin, rather used a modified spring action that used compressed air to ignite the propelled. I think they discontinued them because they weren't licensed to build firearms. Here's a link: http://www.bbairguns.com/Chronology/DaisyGuns/model_VL.htm
     
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    So what's the chance that the guy who holds up a 7/11 reloads? There are many good reasons to oppose this law, but the fact that it might only work some of the time is not persuasive. Crooks only leave fingerprints some of the time. Crooks only leave DNA some of the time.
     
  25. Claude Clay

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    crowd is BIG
    all parking within 1 mile was taken was what the police were telling those looking for a parking place.

    micro stamping is like legislating pi = 3.0. this may allow the 'special' people to learn math easier, but it will not work in the real world. of course I'm thinking that enough laws passed later on to clarify the original and its bound to be so convoluted that statistically it can be proven to work. we elect them after all because they are the only ones professional enough to understand the laws they have made.:what:
     
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