Anyone here know what the barrels are on the cva 12 gauge double barrel they sold as a kit gun? I came across a kit still sealed in the factory shrink wrap bit I can't seem to find information o. The barrel constriction if any..... also any got any advice on getting a tight turkey pattern out of this fun? Thanks !!!
Cva 12g double muzzleloading kit
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danez71
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I dont know the answer....... but....
You should post this in the black powder section. Those guys will probably know.
Even posting this in the rifle section would probably be better.
BTW, welcome the THR.
You should post this in the black powder section. Those guys will probably know.
Even posting this in the rifle section would probably be better.
BTW, welcome the THR.
Moved to Blackpowder.
Those guys HUH whats that supposed to mean?I dont know the answer....... but....
You should post this in the black powder section. Those guys will probably know.
Even posting this in the rifle section would probably be better.
BTW, welcome the THR.
LOL
I used to wonder if the rest of the forum thought we were all throwbacks from the stone age now i know
depending on who made it for CVA ( and when) they are liable to be cylinder and modified or both cylinder.
Some bores appear to be choked (when trying to cram a 12 ga wad down them) , but are actually closer to 13 ga than 12 ga.
With the variations out there you would do well to mic them bores out.
yhs
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Some bores appear to be choked (when trying to cram a 12 ga wad down them) , but are actually closer to 13 ga than 12 ga.
With the variations out there you would do well to mic them bores out.
yhs
shunka
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WestKentucky
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They may be cylinder bore. Supposedly the real deal muzzle loading scatter-gunners controlled spread by the ratio of powder to shot.
Snaggletooth
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I have a kit gun and shoot 70 grain of powder and equal amount of shot. It'd a gun that throws a group that others envy.Ive got a couple of friends that borrow it to hunt, successfully I might add.
Crawdad1
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The CVA shotgun is tough to nail down as they had various makers build guns for them. I had a CVA built by AMR of Spain (A real beauty too) and that shotgun was cylinder and cylinder. There should be some mark underneath the barrels that will lead you to the maker.
Then you can look here;
http://www.littlegun.info/arme espagnole/a a images armes espagnoles gb.htm
To tighten my patterns I varied the ratio between shot and powder but others have suggested using plastic shot cups. I never tried them as I was getting good results from varying the load ratio and using a patterning board. (30 inch circle at 40 yards). But, I didn't hunt turkey with it either.
Then you can look here;
http://www.littlegun.info/arme espagnole/a a images armes espagnoles gb.htm
To tighten my patterns I varied the ratio between shot and powder but others have suggested using plastic shot cups. I never tried them as I was getting good results from varying the load ratio and using a patterning board. (30 inch circle at 40 yards). But, I didn't hunt turkey with it either.
BullRunBear
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Mine is from the 70s and is cylinder bore for both barrels. As others have mentioned, the pattern is varied by loading proportions. I've used it effectively for trap shooting and upland game birds.
Jeff
Jeff
Patocazador
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I don't have a kit gun but my CVA 12 ga SxS has cylinder bores too. For tight patterns I have to use plastic or paper shot cups. The 3" long Multi-metal ones hold a lot of shot and give very tight patterns.
I bought mine in almost new condition last year and it cost $300. I wouldn't pay more than ~$225 for a kit .. if that.
I bought mine in almost new condition last year and it cost $300. I wouldn't pay more than ~$225 for a kit .. if that.
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One will be modified, and the other is open
noelf2
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If the barrels are choked and you end up distorting card wads trying to get them in there, try 2 lubed felt wads (1/4" total thickness) over the powder and one felt wad (1/8" lubed or not) over the shot charge. Felt will spring back to shape better than paper cards. Start with a square load. Add a bit more shot if you're blowing a hole in the pattern. You can back off the powder a bit too. If you're going for turkeys and you want to tighten the pattern even more, try some buffer in with the shot. Great thing about muzzle loading shotguns is there's a million ways to load them for what you need them to do.
MCgunner
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Informative thread. I'm trying to learn scattergun care and feeding, too.
Crawdad1
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"The ideal pattern for turkey hunting is 100 pellets in a 10-inch circle at 40 yards. This density means that there should be plenty of pellets in the small vital area of the turkey’s head and neck to kill it ethically."
That information is from a web-site, you might be hard pressed to get a muzzleloader to shoot that tight. I couldn't get my shotguns ( 1 CVA and 2 Pedersolis) anywhere near that tight.
That information is from a web-site, you might be hard pressed to get a muzzleloader to shoot that tight. I couldn't get my shotguns ( 1 CVA and 2 Pedersolis) anywhere near that tight.
I have now a traditions buckhunter pro 12 gauge muzzleloader. . I'm using 80 grains Pyrodex rs with about 1/4 inch lubed felt wad followed by a turkey ranger plastic shot cup and a little more than equal shot to powder but it is a little more maybe like 100 grains worth using the same measure as I use for the powder... I am not sure how many pellets I got in a 10 inch circle but at 35 yards I'm getting between 15 and 20 something pellets in the turkey head and neck on my life size turkey targets ... I use number 6 shot I was asking because I was looking at the cva double but actually came across a tk2000 with original stock and the thumb hole stock shot only a few times with tons of extras for $250 so I jumped on it!!!!
danez71
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LOL... I truly meant it out of respect.
I come to the BP section every so often thinking "easy-peasy.... they were doing it over 100 yrs ago! This sounds like fun!".
Then I read a 1/2 dozen threads... get all glossey-eyed with a blank stare... I kinda look like this >>
Then I sneak back to one of the other subforums in hopes no-one noticed me.
Crawdad1
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The US was founded because people ran away and left,... However, the Constitution came to be because we STOPPED RUNNING AND FOUGHT for our Rights.
That's a HOF saying right there.
That's a HOF saying right there.
kBob
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I wonder if there is enough metal to try a Jug choke on those CVA doubles?
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whughett
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Every shot gunner should have a choke gage. Mine is a nifty turned brass tube for a 12 gage with all the chokes marked as the tube slips into the muzzle.
Carried it for many years as a keychain fob.
Have not searched but should be available on line some where.
I am assuming a bore gage is the same regardless of type of loading.
Carried it for many years as a keychain fob.
Have not searched but should be available on line some where.
I am assuming a bore gage is the same regardless of type of loading.
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