CVA Electra with ARC Electronic Ignition

[arcticap]

There have been guns built with electronic triggers before, but CVA's electronic BP rifle seems like a pretty neat concept.
CVA claims that the ignition burns 5 times hotter than a #209 primer.

The World's First Electronic Igniton MuzzleLoader

Our new Electra™ rifles are like no other muzzleloaders on earth, featuring the patent pending ARC™ Electronic Ignition. The ARC™ Electronic Ignition is completely sealed from the elements – there’s not even a flash-hole. No parts other than the barrel have to be cleaned of fouling – ever! Ignition is absolutely instantaneous. The trigger pull is incredibly clean – because the “trigger” is really an electronic switch. And since there is no pressure explosion, as there is with primer ignitions, there is no accuracy robbing displacement of the charge – allowing full and consistent burn of the powder charge at the bottom of the barrel. One 9-volt battery will reliably fire the rifle at least 500 times, and the battery will last 600 hours (25 days) – and that’s if it is left turned on! The Electra is the ultimate muzzleloader in ease-of-use, rapid reloading, ease-of-cleaning and never-fail reliability. And all Electras are equipped with a premium Bergara Barrel – for unmatched accuracy.

There's also a video link on the following page:


http://www.cva.com/products/rifle_electra.htm

 

[chuck-ia]

cva electra

I knew it was just a matter of time till someone came out electronic ignition for a muzzleloader. I shoot a flintlock to get away from the the everyday hi tech things, so, for me, I see no point in owning one. chuck-ia

 

[Shotgun Willy]

Boom!

I'll have to admit that the idea's appealing. I just can't get past the feeling it's like loading my revolver with the caps already on it. There are probably safeguards on it, but I've seen too many switches go bad to really trust it.
Going through life with my eyebrows burnt off, or my hand, or whatever because the trigger switch was stuck on and my next load fired off while I was loading.
Bill

 

[K.A.T.]

Short circuit!

What if it came up a thunderstorm with lightning? What if you have a pacemaker? What if you wear a hearing aid? What about static electricty? I don't know guys,I'm just jokeing around,it seems funny to me. I missed a buck of a lifetime today,the biggest one I've ever seen,my battery was dead!:

 

[Old Dragoon]

Electric ignition+Electrical Engineer= Enuff Said. I wouldn't have one on a bet.

 

[alsaqr]

Another product looking for a viable market. Would not have one on a bet.

 

[Fast Frank]

anachronism

noun
1. something located at a time when it could not have existed or occurred
2. an artifact that belongs to another time
3. a person who seems to be displaced in time; who belongs to another age

 

[Aries-]

sounds interesting.

im pretty sure you would be able to hear it if it was arcing before you loaded it.

i have a paintball marker that runs on propane and uses an electrical arc to ignight the propane to propell the paintball out the barrel.

it sounds like a neat idea. if it was cheap enough id buy one just to have it since it likely wont go over well. and wont be to many put there. would be kinda cool to have just to show people "look a electrical ignighted blackpowder rifle!"

something id be worried about is how often you have to clean the barrel. wether its after every shot (ie: the electrodes get absolutly filthy with fouling) or wether they work ok for a few shots.

id also like to know how the electrodes look inside the barrel, wether they stick out. or if they are flat against the inside of the barrel in which case the base of the barrel must be quite small for it to actualy make an arc.

 

[dstorm1911]

LMAO!!!! I can't make a comment its just to d@mn commical.... so at what point do muzzle loaders no longer qualify as a "primitive weapon" as viewed by the state f&g departments?

 

[SWC Bonfire]

You know, I was just thinking about this the other day, but in a different context. Millitaries worldwide have already gone to intermediate cartridges instead of full-powered ones for many reasons, including the fact that smaller shell casings weigh less and they can carry more ammo.

I figured it would just be an amount of time before they eliminated the shell casing altogether. Also, if you never have to eject the casing, the gun could be much simpler and easy to clean.

I think there is a guy in Australia that came up with a gun like that, with projectiles and propellant stacked in a tube back-to-back and no moving parts. If they came up with a way to feed the bullet and inject propellant like into an internal combustion engine, they have an adjustable-load weapon that would contain all of its ammunition in magazines and would eject nothing but bullets and gasses.

 

[Gewehr98]

I can't wait...

For the traditional flint and caplock purists to lobby states, preventing these guns from being allowed to hunt in muzzleloading seasons. It'll happen, I guarantee.

I know what's going under my Christmas tree this year, though. It'll go nicely in the safe, next to my Hawken caplock.

This is cute:

Electric ignition+Electrical Engineer= Enuff Said. I wouldn't have one on a bet.

Remington did the E-Tronix rifles not too long ago. Uncle Sam's been using electrically-fired ammo since at least 1949, with their 20mm Vulcan guns. Maybe they're an accident waiting to happen?

 

[ED21]

For the traditional flint and caplock purists to lobby states, preventing these guns from being allowed to hunt in muzzleloading seasons. It'll happen, I guarantee.

If it were not for the traditional purists as you call them, there would be no ML seasons. I can not for the life of me understand the facination with using so much technology to "improve" a sport, Muzzleloading. If you want to use more and "better" technology then lobby for an electric gun season, or a dart projectile season and quit complaining when those that brought you the original Primative Firearms seasons lament for the old days when ML was pure.

 

[Gewehr98]

Wrong. We just got over the Jim Zumbo fiasco.

Intolerance and discrimination does not reflect well on gun owners, in any way, shape or form.

I love that "We matchlock/flinters/caplocks created the season" line of argument. The only people who brought us the primitive firearm season are the respective state fish and game departments, as an additional tool at their disposal to further manage their deer herds. They also generate a bit more licensing revenue for their conservation efforts. Barring any delusions of self-importance, one should never forget that fact, whether they shoot a matchlock, flintlock, percussion lock, 209 primer lock, or the new electric arc frontstuffer. You're out there in the woods because somebody saw fit to create a special season for you that fits into their big picture. That's all.

Anything else is just peeing in the wind. Piss and moan enough, and the powers that be may just take that as a signal to turn off the frontstuffer season altogether and lengthen centerfire rifle season instead, less hassle than putting up with the Hatfield vs. McCoy bickering. That would really do wonders for furthering the shooting sports and introducing younger generations to the fun that is blackpowder, wouldn't it?

 

[arcticap]

The video showed that there's an on/off switch, and a safety switch. There's also a small LED light on the back of the wrist that blinks when the gun is on, and stays lite when the safety is off. The battery can always be removed if someone doesn't feel safe with the double switch.
All muzzle loaders are capable of discharging if there's a hot ember left burning in the barrel. And some folks believe that blackpowder has accidently ignited when ramming for reasons unrelated to burning embers, possibly from a combination of friction/rubbing against unburned powder.

10. NEVER POUND THE RAMROD. Black powder and PYRODEX are impact sensitive and could ignite from impact. Keep the ramrod directly away from your face or body.

http://www.remington.com/safety/safety_center/muzzleloader_safety_rules.asp