CVA Muzzle loaders

[Eutycus]

On a certain Blackpowder forum modern day firearms are called unmentionables and CVAs are looked down upon. Not all of us can afford a custom made rifle and CVAs are owned by many shooters. How are CVA products accepted on this forum? I personally think they are affordable and accurate.

 

[troy fairweather]

Any I had were fine, people will complain about anything

 

[armoredman]

I haven't heard anything bad about CVA, usually the opposite.

 

[Eutycus]

Just wondering, I am well pleased with mine.Most won't admit but I still feel they are looked down upon. Lots of negativity. No one ever said they were the best just good affordable (and very accurate) firearms.I am sure they were a stepping stone that introduced Black Powder shooting to many.

 

[hawg]

CVA sidelocks are pretty decent guns.

 

[Eutycus]

There was a time way back when they first started with the kits,I guess, that the earlier ones actually had made-in-the USA barrels.

 

[dickydalton]

I put a 50 cal Hawkin kit together about 20 years ago that Judy got me for Christmas. I haven't shot it for many years but I'm gonna. And my shotgun works excellent.

 

[red rick]

All inlines are looked down on here . I have the Accura .

 

[Eutycus]

All inlines are looked down on here . I have the Accura .

I really don't mean any offense but I feel inlines are looked down upon everyehere.I feel they were used as a loophole for early hunting.

 

[JmacD]

I’ve hunted with flintlock,cap and inline. Right now I have an accura xtremeLR. Hunt with a hawken as well. I’ve seen CVA that work like a well oiled machine. I’ve seen them that didn’t work worth a tinkers toot.

 

[Eutycus]

I only have percussion CVAs . I wish I had gotten around to flintlocks some years ago before the hobby had gotten so expensive. But caps were available and affordable back then too. Being younger with better eyesight wouldn't have hurt either.

 

[kje54]

On a certain Blackpowder forum modern day firearms are called unmentionables and CVAs are looked down upon. Not all of us can afford a custom made rifle and CVAs are owned by many shooters. How are CVA products accepted on this forum? I personally think they are affordable and accurate.

Pretty sure I know which board you're referring to, I'm a long time member. Yes, they have their share of purists but most people don't have a problem with CVAs. Just look at all the non custom guns for sale on that site. Of course it also depends on which sub forum they are discussed in. If the subject concerns historical accuracy the CVAs do not belong just like most TCs don't.
Modern inlines belong on their sister site that is dedicated to such firearms, personally I consider inlines to be unholy abominations.......... That's why I always keep a silver cross, wooden stake and holy water handy.

 

[kje54]

Just wondering, I am well pleased with mine.Most won't admit but I still feel they are looked down upon. Lots of negativity. No one ever said they were the best just good affordable (and very accurate) firearms.I am sure they were a stepping stone that introduced Black Powder shooting to many.

Ya think that's bad just mention Taurus and watch what happens........

 

[Eutycus]

I got another CVA pistol but it's not working at the moment. My grandson dropped it and broke the hammer.

 

[Eutycus]

Pretty sure I know which board you're referring to, I'm a long time member. Yes, they have their share of purists but most people don't have a problem with CVAs. Just look at all the non custom guns for sale on that site. Of course it also depends on which sub forum they are discussed in. If the subject concerns historical accuracy the CVAs do not belong just like most TCs don't.
Modern inlines belong on their sister site that is dedicated to such firearms, personally I consider inlines to be unholy abominations.......... That's why I always keep a silver cross, wooden stake and holy water handy.

Totally agree, I am not a purist just a "fun" shooter.

 

[Mountainman2]

I built a 32 and a 50 cal from kits back in the early 70s and took a lot of deer with the 50. The 32 shot good but the only squirrels I got were the ones that fell out of trees laughing at my shooting and broke their necks. I still shoot them occasionally but i hate to clean them.

 

[JmacD]

Modern inlines belong on their sister site that is dedicated to such firearms, personally I consider inlines to be unholy abominations.......... That's why I always keep a silver cross, wooden stake and holy water handy.

It’s interesting that I can agree with you. lol. Even if I shoot a “break action” inline fueled with BH209…. That said, they are NOT a flint or cap gun. They are a modern something all their own IMHO. Hey, I like about anything that goes boom…

 

[Eutycus]

There are those who would argue that the movie "Jerimiah Johnson" started or had alot to do with "the Blackpowder Craze". And it was a factor. But I believe those kits from CVA were a even bigger factor.

 

[kje54]

It’s interesting that I can agree with you. lol. Even if I shoot a “break action” inline fueled with BH209…. That said, they are NOT a flint or cap gun. They are a modern something all their own IMHO. Hey, I like about anything that goes boom…

Most likely I would never own one and being a former reenactor I hate them but my usual joke response is aimed at me and my attitude, not the people who like them.

 

[kje54]

There are those who would argue that the movie "Jerimiah Johnson" started or had alot to do with "the Blackpowder Craze". And it was a factor. But I believe those kits from CVA were a even bigger factor.

It had it's effect on the mountain man community just like other movies had their equal effect on different American eras from the F&I War up to WWII and beyond. I've even run across reenactors who were doing Vietnam.......

 

[Eutycus]

It seems that the only thing even lower than a CVA is Pyrodex or Inlines , by the purists I mean.

 

[Captain*kirk]

I've owned several CVA percussion pistols. They are like anything else...you can get a good one or a bad one. If it has issues, address them. If your lock is a F2F nightmare, tune it or replace it. I see no issue with buying the best you can afford, but better to get what you can afford rather than sit back and wish. Enjoy your CVA and to heck with the 'purists'. It's your gun, your choice. Not theirs.
And yeah, I know the forum well. Which is why I'm not there a lot.

 

[hawg]

It seems that the only thing even lower than a CVA is Pyrodex or Inlines , by the purists I mean.

I'm pretty much a purist but I understand the use of Pyrodex with real black being hard to get and the price. Plus the stuff is really good. I used it for many years. I don't really have a problem with CVA sidelocks. I just look at them as Tryon trade rifles from the mid 1870's. Inlines are an abomination and a scourge against humanity.

 

[Captain*kirk]

Over the years I've shot more Pyrodex than real black due to availability. Satisfied with the results and readily available, plus it's non-progressive fouling and is classified as a propellant (like smokeless) rather than an explosive.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

I have 2 CVA long guns, a double rifle and a sxs 12 gauge. Both are good shooters. I also have 2 CVA branded Walkers, they are ASM manufactured and had all the issues that go along with ASM and Uberti. Fixed all the problems and both are excellent reliable shooters. I don't look down on CVA stuff as long as it's not an inline.