Cylinder Identification Help

[iShoot17]

Hey y’all,

With my inexperience with black powder revolvers, I could use some help identifying two cylinders that have managed there way into my hands over the years.

It appears that the one on the left is for a Ruger Old Army, but I can’t figure out the one on the right! Any help would be appreciated and I can get additional pictures of whatever y’all need. The right cylinder has a marking “R12954”.

I appreciate the help in advance!

 

[expat_alaska]

The cylinder on the right (3rd photo) has an Italian proof mark (PN) on the rear, but I can't discern what the other stamping is. If you could supply a larger/clearer photo of that mark I think that might help with identification.

The ratchet is the Colt type but there are no safety pins between the nipples, which in itself is not that unusual for early Italian revolvers: I have one from Pietta that has no pins that I used for a 12-stop-slot cylinder for a replica Rigdon & Ansley (the RH revolver in my avatar).. What really puzzles me is the raised shoulder around the arbor hole. Every replica Colt percussion revolver I have (1848 Dragoon, 1848 Pocket, 1851 Navy, 1860 Army from Pietta/Uberti/ASM) or have seen does not have that. What appears to be a serial number has an "R" prefix, which was common on Armi San Marco/Armi San Paolo revolvers but the prefix never got that high in the alphabet to my knowledge.

Regards,

Jim

 

[Big Bore 44]

The cylinder on the right is for a model 1873 percussion. Both Uberti and Pietta made them. It is a percussion remake of the 73 SAA.

 

[iShoot17]

The cylinder on the right (3rd photo) has an Italian proof mark (PN) on the rear, but I can't discern what the other stamping is. If you could supply a larger/clearer photo of that mark I think that might help with identification.

The ratchet is the Colt type but there are no safety pins between the nipples, which in itself is not that unusual for early Italian revolvers: I have one from Pietta that has no pins that I used for a 12-stop-slot cylinder for a replica Rigdon & Ansley (the RH revolver in my avatar).. What really puzzles me is the raised shoulder around the arbor hole. Every replica Colt percussion revolver I have (1848 Dragoon, 1848 Pocket, 1851 Navy, 1860 Army from Pietta/Uberti/ASM) or have seen does not have that. What appears to be a serial number has an "R" prefix, which was common on Armi San Marco/Armi San Paolo revolvers but the prefix never got that high in the alphabet to my knowledge.

Regards,

Jim

Per your request! I took as close of a picture as I could!

The cylinder on the right is for a model 1873 percussion. Both Uberti and Pietta made them. It is a percussion remake of the 73 SAA.

Well look at that! They certainly look the same!

 

[expat_alaska]

IShoot,

I think you have your answer!

I am still curious about the number on the cylinder.

Jim

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The cylinder on the right is for a model 1873 percussion. Both Uberti and Pietta made them. It is a percussion remake of the 73 SAA.

(iirc) They were made for the European and South American markets, perhaps parts of Asia too, where "cowboy" films were/are popular, but one cannot legally own an actual SAA revolver, but can own a cap-n-ball revolver.

LD