CZ 75 Cold War

[colt1903]

I don't usually go in for commemorative firearms. They are frequently cheesy with a lot of gold plated bling that makes one reluctant to fire it. We CZ has put out this model to commemorate the end of the cold war and they managed to keep the cheese wiped off of it. A little Russian stamping and red paint is not going to keep me from shooting her and she is a shooter:

She comes with 3 dot luminescent sights

1st 20 out of the box at 21 feet

33 rounds at 21 feet

45 rounds at 45 feet

And here she is all snuggled in her Remora holster

 

[Thompsoncustom]

Looks like a great gun I have a cz 75b and its by far the best gun I have handled for the money so far.

 

[colt1903]

Yeah, it's hard to find a pistol under $500 any more, especially one of this quality.

 

[noylj]

It still has that UGLY trigger guard. Long live the CZ75.
Why the russian markings for a Czech firearm? Did the Russkies ever issue the '75?

 

[metalman8600]

Why the russian markings for a Czech firearm? Did the Russkies ever issue the '75?

They never used it.

 

[bannockburn]

colt1903

Maybe it's just me but the Red Star and Hammer and Sickle seems more like CZ is paying homage to the Soviets during the Cold War, not celebrating their downfall at the end of it. Sorry but definitely not my cup of Russian Black tea.

 

[colt1903]

Yeah, I have never seen any indication that it was officially issued to the Russian military or police (although it would have been a nice step up for those who carried a service pistol). I think CZ is looking at it as commemorating the end of the Soviet Union's strangle hold on Eastern Europe.

 

[Fastcast]

I've seen some good prices on those....It looks like there's some serious scratches in the polycoat, like the thing bounced out the back of the truck and skipped down the road. Maybe I'm just seeing things that aren't there?

 

[HorseSoldier]

They never used it.

+1. The Czechoslovakian military never did, either, during the Cold War. The 75 was purely built as a revenue generating export back then. A Ron Reid-Daly commemorative edition with a "Pamwe Chete" banner on the side and a Selous Scouts insignia in place of the hammer and sickle would be a more accurate commemoration of its role in the Cold War (and way cooler).

 

[colt1903]

Fastcast,

What you're seeing is there but they aren't scratches. On the left side where the slide meets the frame is some Tetra grease that has oozed out. On the right side over the slide's serial number is a cloth imprint from the cleaning oil that I thought of all wiped off.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I love CZs, and this is just an updated version of the original [Turkish] Military model remarked. (It's not as attractive as the RETRO model they brought out a few years ago, which was a true B model that looked like a pre-B.)

And, it IS cheesy, when you realize that the Soviet Bloc never used CZs.

The early CZs were designed and made for export and never picked up by the Soviets or anyone else on that side of the "Iron Curtain" -- Not even the Czech military.

Trade barriers put up by the West kept the CZ-75 out of most Western countries. You could get them in Canada...

(The 9mm caliber was never used by the Communist militaries -- except for some small special ops units.)

 

[jaysouth]

CZ was embargoed from sales in the US until the Russian Bear collapsed.

No commie guns allowed. That was why it's clone was made in Italy and Switzerland for sales in the U.S. until the Warsaw pact disintergrated and Czech becames it's own master.

 

[Carter]

Nice shooting.

I was tempted to buy it too. For some reason its cheaper than the normal CZ 75b.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

Some Russian Spetnaz troops used the CZ75, but it was not generally issued to Soviet military in any way. We are now seeing some CZ75's come in as imports that were police issue in Czechoslovakia before the fall of the Iron Curtain.

 

[CZguy]

A little Russian stamping and red paint is not going to keep me from shooting her and she is a shooter:

It wouldn't keep me from shooting it either, but it sure would keep me from buying it. Purely a matter of personal taste, I'm sure it will shoot very well.

We are now seeing some CZ75's come in as imports that were police issue in Czechoslovakia before the fall of the Iron Curtain.

Where? I would love to own a pre B 75.

 

[toivo]

And, it IS cheesy, when you realize that the Soviet Bloc never used CZs.

Don't these count?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_82

Or did you just mean the actual Russians themselves?

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Actually, I think he meant -- in the context of this discussion -- the CZ 75.

If it (the CZ-75) was used at all by the Communist Bloc military, it was limited to a few Special Ops teams. The calibre (9x19) was not a Communist military caliber...getting ammo would have been an adventure.

The CZ-82 (9x18) was used by the Czechs, the caliber was available, and I prefer it to the Makarov...

 

[welldoya]

Back during the cold war when the CZ75 wasn't available in the U.S., they were really sought after. It's kind of odd but they were available in rod and gun clubs on U.S. bases overseas. I know because I bought one for $190 in about 1988.
A few months later I took it to an indoor range here in the states and when I pulled it out of the case, the range owner offered me $500 on the spot. I declined.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I picked up one of those "imported" CZs from a guy who paid over $800 for it in the early 80's. It broke his heart that he couldn't get anywhere near that for it in "inflated" dollars in the late 1990s. He lost his butt on that one.

It was a lovely gun, however. (It was one of number of pre-Bs that I've owned -- and this one had the old-style safety, which you had to insert a pin in, when removing it from the frame, to control the coiled spring inside...)

 

[Janos Dracwlya]

As a fan of Eastern Bloc firearms (Makarov, Vz-52, Nagant), I'd have no problem owning one. Now, if only they made it in the Decocker model.

 

[PabloJ]

Interesting conversation piece, but I would rather own full size AR-24.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

As a fan of Eastern Bloc firearms (Makarov, Vz-52, Nagant), I'd have no problem owning one. Now, if only they made it in the Decocker model.

Are you referring to the CZ-75? Lots of decocker models... (Or do you mean the CZ-83 or 82?)

(After a reread... later comment: you meant the "Red Star" version in decocker, didn't you?}

 

[Nickg216]

+1 to all for the correct history...the soviets only issued these (CZ 75) to special ops units (spetznaz, gru agents, etc.) during the cold war... Great gun though, I'm about to pick one up myself

 

[MudPuppy]

I've always been a fan of that design. For this particular marked version, meh.

I recall an article in the early 80s on how to get around importing one, through Canada iirc. I was big into combloc stuff just because it was so exotic at the time.

 

[Xfire68]

Those targets look familiar! They look just like mine do every time I shoot my CZ!