Oh geez - thanks a lot, CZ - now that I'm somewhat educated on the upcoming RAMI pistol, I'm very intrigued. Let's compare these two, shall we?
First off, if you want one in .40s&w, looks like the RAMI would arrive in that caliber first (but still no guarantees on either - neither is available at present), so the RAMI will have to win by default on that one.
As for 9x19, this seems like an interesting comparison for me for a reasonable cost, deep concealment CCW:
1. Price: XD's MSRP is $489. Anyone have an idea what the RAMI will be?
2. Trigger: XD's is a hybrid double action (short DA). RAMI's is apparently a "select-fire" (
), in that you can choose between DAO and SAO. Or am I misreading the description, and it's simply a traditional DA/SA? If it IS select-trigger, can it be carried DA/SA at all, or must one simply choose between DAO and SAO?
3. Size: Same bbl length (3.0"). XD is 6.26" overall. RAMI is 6.6" overall. I don't see the width of the XD offhand - anyone know?, but the RAMI width is 1.26" - really this is kinda wide for a carry gun - wider than I'd like, for an *ideal* carry gun, or deep concealment gun.
4. Frame material: XD is polymer. RAMI is aluminum/steel ??? (CZs website doesn't say).
5. Capacity: Same (10+1 in 9mm). It's possible that one or both would hold 11 or 12 with standard caps or .40 mags, but I just cannot tell. 10 may be the limit in one but not the other or vice versa. In .40, mag cap is 8 in the RAMI, unknown in the XD.
6. Features (these can be pros or cons depending on your preferences): CZ has external safety, XD does not. XD has loaded chamber indicator, grip safety, trigger safety; CZ has none of above, NAICT.
7. Weight: appears to be pretty similar. XD is 23.68 oz (unloaded?). RAMI is 695 grams, unloaded. Someone do the math....
8. Sights: XD has steel square notch; RAMI has same, but RAMI's appears to more snag-free, although CZ commits the same common but nonsensical error with these by making the rear sight ramp slope from front to back, instead of from back to front, as they should for snag-free drawing.
9. XD has a slide release; RAMI does not.
Other comparisons or more detail on these? Thanks. I kinda favor the XD in 9x19 in this comparison, for reasons of size, corrosion resistance, and slide release, but I'd go with the RAMI if it comes out in .40 first, as it probably will. But the price will be a possible factor too, if the RAMI somehow ends up being signficantly less. Oh yeah, RAMI wins hands down in looks department, IMO, but this is negligible concern for me personally. As for a true pocket pistol, neither one fits the bill any more than the Glock 26/27 or Kahrs or others do - too big. I'll stick with the P3AT or wait for the Rohrbaugh for a true pocket carry number.
First off, if you want one in .40s&w, looks like the RAMI would arrive in that caliber first (but still no guarantees on either - neither is available at present), so the RAMI will have to win by default on that one.
As for 9x19, this seems like an interesting comparison for me for a reasonable cost, deep concealment CCW:
1. Price: XD's MSRP is $489. Anyone have an idea what the RAMI will be?
2. Trigger: XD's is a hybrid double action (short DA). RAMI's is apparently a "select-fire" (
), in that you can choose between DAO and SAO. Or am I misreading the description, and it's simply a traditional DA/SA? If it IS select-trigger, can it be carried DA/SA at all, or must one simply choose between DAO and SAO?3. Size: Same bbl length (3.0"). XD is 6.26" overall. RAMI is 6.6" overall. I don't see the width of the XD offhand - anyone know?, but the RAMI width is 1.26" - really this is kinda wide for a carry gun - wider than I'd like, for an *ideal* carry gun, or deep concealment gun.
4. Frame material: XD is polymer. RAMI is aluminum/steel ??? (CZs website doesn't say).
5. Capacity: Same (10+1 in 9mm). It's possible that one or both would hold 11 or 12 with standard caps or .40 mags, but I just cannot tell. 10 may be the limit in one but not the other or vice versa. In .40, mag cap is 8 in the RAMI, unknown in the XD.
6. Features (these can be pros or cons depending on your preferences): CZ has external safety, XD does not. XD has loaded chamber indicator, grip safety, trigger safety; CZ has none of above, NAICT.
7. Weight: appears to be pretty similar. XD is 23.68 oz (unloaded?). RAMI is 695 grams, unloaded. Someone do the math....
8. Sights: XD has steel square notch; RAMI has same, but RAMI's appears to more snag-free, although CZ commits the same common but nonsensical error with these by making the rear sight ramp slope from front to back, instead of from back to front, as they should for snag-free drawing.
9. XD has a slide release; RAMI does not.
Other comparisons or more detail on these? Thanks. I kinda favor the XD in 9x19 in this comparison, for reasons of size, corrosion resistance, and slide release, but I'd go with the RAMI if it comes out in .40 first, as it probably will. But the price will be a possible factor too, if the RAMI somehow ends up being signficantly less. Oh yeah, RAMI wins hands down in looks department, IMO, but this is negligible concern for me personally. As for a true pocket pistol, neither one fits the bill any more than the Glock 26/27 or Kahrs or others do - too big. I'll stick with the P3AT or wait for the Rohrbaugh for a true pocket carry number.
CZ guy...Id wait for the RAMI...
