CZ Redhead first impressions

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I recently got the urge for an O/U shotgun for field and clays work. As my beautiful better half has clamped down on my gun spending, keeping it under the $1K radar so I can maintain her good graces was important. After a lot of investigation, I decided on the 28" 12ga CZ Redhead.

That's when the fun started; I wasn't alone in wanting this gun. Finally I found one on Gunbroker that hadn't been priced out of reason ($950 bid for a $800 gun?) or wasn't backordered until next sumer (maybe); it arrived at my club today.

My first impression was the wood is gorgeous. If you walk into a furniture store and see an overgrown bozo wearing a stupid grin and rubbing a nicely formed chunk of wood, well, that's probably me. Norm Abrams is a hero. This gun's wood gave me...well you get the idea....

Fit and finish were far beyond one would expect from the less-than $650 price I paid. Lockup was tight, bluing was deep and flawless (black chrome?), metal to wood fit (oh my...) was perfect, and the trigger was crisp with no creep (more later). Single brass front with no midship bead--good stuff! And no auto safety. if I want to engage the safety, I'll do it myself, thank you.

Now that I got mine, so I'll let the secret out: these guns are WAY underpriced! Buy one now before CZ's marketing department figures it out. This is the shotgun equivalent of the Valtro 1911 (yeah, I have a Valtro too, and no, its not for sale. ;) ).

As the Friday Night Trap, BBQ and BS league was gathering at my club when the new toy arrived, some of the Beretta, Browning and Perazzi owners had a chance to fondle the gun. None believed the price. All wanted to shoot it. Yeah, right...

Due to other comittments and a late-arriving Brown Truck of Happiness (UPS) driver, I didn't have the time to really run the gun through the paces, only shooting a box of AA reloads through it to verify function before the 4473 dance begins tomorrow. Trigger is outstanding; I won't guess at the weight, but it is nowhere near the 7.5 lbs I read about from the "experts". Break is very crisp with no (ZERO!) creep and the reset between shots is like a perfectly tuned 1911 ('tis a beautiful thing). Gun ejects empties into a tidy pile.

I had read about some problems with one barrel or the other (by the same 7.5# trigger pull experts), so my shooting today consisted of quick doubles --bang -bang. When the gun arrived, it was set for the top barrel to fire first. As soon as I saw that, I switched it over to bottom first. Load two, point in a safe direction, pull the trigger and KABOOM!

My first thought was that I had shot a double charged reload...oh no...a quick inspection showed no damage, the action opened just fine, and out ejected two (!!) spent shells. The gun doubled.

My next thought as a recoil junkie was, "that was fun, let's do it again!"

Lesson: when you switch the barrel selector, first pull the trigger before you load and shoot the thing. In all fairness, it may say that in the manual, but as a red-blooded American Male, I don't need no stinkin' manual. Directions? What, you think we're lost? Ha!

I am very pleased with the gun and consider it money well spent. I'll make sure to post an update if any of this changes.
 
i handled one at the gun store last weekend. yes, they are nice and the price is right.

i'm pretty sure the one i was looking at was a redhead, but it was a 20ga. and had a 26 inch barrel. a little small for me, but everything else about it was great.

the last two firearms i have purchased have been long guns, so i need to get another pistol to balance things out a bit...next month i am planning on putting a SAA clone on layaway...however, with the tax return i will be purchasing one of these CZ Redheads or an M1A....haven't quite decided yet. I do know that i will be purchasing an o/u in 2006, if everything works out accordingly. still haven't decided on 20ga. or 12ga. though....
 
I have a Ringneck (the SxS) and I've put over 4k rounds through the first one (it broke, they replaced it) and about another 500 through this one so far. Great guns. Even the gun fitter commented on the good hard wood in the stock. Best value going (just like the rifles).
 
Nice report. I got a Woodcock 20 guage a couple of weeks ago. Still waiting to shoot it. I might look hard at a Redhead in 12 guage.

Let's see some pictures of your wood. (the wood on the gun :p )
 
Here's a couple pics of the gun's wood (thanks for the clarification, 12V :p ) taken by the seller, Tex-Pro Shooting Sports in Midland TX. Great group of people, by the way.

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My dad used to say that the good deals are what make you broke. Never quite got it until I started looking at these boards.

I don't shoot any clay games and own 2 12 guages.

I am sitting here thinking to myself that I probably will shoot some kind of clay games in the future and then I will want a pretty O/U like that, so I should probably just try and get one now for $650 so I don't end up buying one for $1500 down the road...This makes perfect sense to me somehow...
 
bluing was deep and flawless (black chrome?)
So I wasn't the only one that thought the bluing might actually be black chrome (previous report on 20Ga Ringneck).

Anybody know if it really is?
 
I'm starting to see a lot of talk about the CZ shotguns now. It is kind of funny. They are Huglu's. I bought my Huglu over 2 years ago. I love the gun. Very nice looking. I researched a lot before I bought it and and then went out on a limb as I was purchasing a nice looking gun that very few people had even heard of. It turned out well for me. Mark DeHaan at DeHaan Shotguns imported the Huglu I have (an S2 20ga). I now use it in Cowboy Action Shooting. Now that CZ is importing them also I find it amusing that more people are willing to look at them now than when Armsco was importing them. I guess CZ has deeper pockets and a better PR department so more buyers are willing to take them seriously. A year ago, how many people would have been willing to lay out the cash for a Turkish shotgun versus the number of people that are praising the CZ's now? I guess I was just a trendsetter and didn't know it. I had heard from quite a few of the "B" gun owners how big a POS the Huglu's were. I disagree. I am quite satisfied with mine. As an aside- Kimber is now selling a shotgun that is made in the same Turkish factory as the DeHaan/Huglu/CZ guns.
 
...or something as simple as CZ has market penetration at retailers. When DeHaan had them, you generally ordered sight unseen.

The CZ has already turned up at two of my local dealers.

I could be wrong, but I'd bet Spartan is going to see wider distribution than EAA managed for the Baikal.
 
So I wasn't the only one that thought the bluing might actually be black chrome (previous report on 20Ga Ringneck).

Anybody know if it really is?

I think it is black chrome too. I have seen nothing that says that. I just think that it is.
Whatever it is, it is a very nice finish.
 
Grayrock, in marketing we have what are known as the "Four P's", Product, Price, Place and Promotion. Unless all four are perfectly lined up, a product won't achieve wide success. Huglu had the first two P's nailed, but it wasn't until CZ took the line on and added the Place (wide distribution and improving availability) and Promotion, that the guns went beyond being a well-kept secret.

One sees this all the time with products across the entire spectrum.
 
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