Cz75 omega worth it?

[JB_3]

I have recently been looking at the CZ 75 B with the omega trigger, and during my research on the gun I found a few people who preferred the plain CZ75 B model to the 75 B omega. So my question is CZ 75 owners which one do you have? Do you prefer it over the other? Is the 75B Omega better than the 75B or is it vice versa?

 

[Wishoot]

I own an Omega and have shot the standard 75B.

Both are fine choices. Some say that the Omega's trigger is heavy and gritty in comparison. Maybe I got exception, but mine is very smooth. A few thousand rounds downrange probably helped a bit too. Zero issues. I wouldn't trade my Omega for anything.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

What really matters most is which YOU prefer. And if you don't know, it might be to your advantage to find out before you buy. You can't really go by what other people say -- as unless they've got both, they tend to push their own choice.

If you can find someone locally with a broken-in CZ-75B and someone else with an omega-equipped 75B (or a P-07 or P-09), you can make your mind up for yourself. Some ranges have rental guns, and if you're lucky, you can find one with CZs. You might post where you live, generally, and someon in that area participating here might let you try one of their guns.

The potential for the trigger "being improved" on a standard CZ is a potential that few ever take advantage of. Probably 1 or 2 in every 10 CZ owners go to the trouble of tuning their CZ triggers, Mot find that after about 300-400 rounds, the trigger is pretty good. Unless you plan to spend the extra money to have it done, don't worry about that "potential."

I have had a bunch of CZs. I still have a superb CZ-85 Combat (which, internally, is almost identical to the standard CZ -- the only difference is that it doesn't have a firing pin block. I also have a CZ-75 P-07, bought used, which has the Omega trigger system, with the safety installed. It is a very good trigger. I was suprised by just own good the P-07 is! The Omega system apparently doesn't take as much (if any) breaking in like the standard trigger. Once they're broken , but still stock, I doubt you'd notice much difference.

 

[MIL-DOT]

From what I've read, the Omega trigger system isn't as robustly constructed as the standard trigger system, and while lurking around on the CZ forum, I've read a few references to the (supposed) fact that most CZ afficianodos are not huge fans of the Omegas.
I've also noticed that a large number of the CZ75's on my local classified sites, are the Omega versions, and a couple times I've read some guys when they'd list trade interests, they would say "CZ75's, but no Omegas".
I can't say anything with assurety, I'm just passing on what I've been reading, but it's enough that I've stopped considering one of the Omegas for my next CZ. (That being said, I've also read reports from lots of folks that have no issues with them, and love them, so who knows.)

 

[ritepath]

I have a 75B omega and a P-09. My p-09 DA trigger is much better than my 75s. Both have a pretty good SA trigger.

The non omega 75 has more options over at CGW

http://cajungunworks.com/index.html


I'd love to find a non omega 75 SA or 75 in Stainless. Then I'd be able to tell you...

 

[Wishoot]

I have a 75B omega and a P-09. My p-09 DA trigger is much better than my 75s. Both have a pretty good SA trigger.

The non omega 75 has more options over at CGW

http://cajungunworks.com/index.html


I'd love to find a non omega 75 SA or 75 in Stainless. Then I'd be able to tell you...

The CZ P09 uses the Omega system.

 

[Armor Snail]

Less aftermarket options for internals.

Although I would say an Omega has a better out of the box trigger than a 75B.

It does have an upswept beavertail though. So that's enticing.

Can't get a standard profile slide with that otherwise.

I'd like to get one myself.

 

[CNobbe]

I've had a few 75Bs, friend has the Omega. I can shoot some nice groups with the standard 75B, but his Omega is just plain awesome! Not gritty at all.

His gun has a few thousand rounds through it and that's possibly made it into what it is.

I believe the Omega trigger 75 is actually a little lower in price simply because the system is simpler to build and has less parts.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

The non omega 75 has more options over at CGW

I'd expect that to change with time. The P-07/P-09 is relatively new, and David Milam, the guy who runs CGW, does the design and development work himself, and also runs the gunsmithing business. Give him a little time, and I suspect you'll see more stuff for the Omega system. (Even the CZ Custom Shop was slow developing stuff -- 'cause all of these guys have a business to run as well as designing and developing.)

 

[ritepath]

The CZ P09 uses the Omega system.

Yes the 09 is also omega, but in DA it feels completely different, much nicer than my 75s.

 

[JDR]

Walt raises many good points, and one in particular, if you're trying to evaluate CZ DA/SA triggers, try out a well broken in example. The trigger on my CZ 75B is very nicely broken in and I wouldn't trade it for an omega trigger CZ, but I do like the new version P-07. I like having a "B" if I decide that I want to carry mine. But if the primary intended use for the gun is range only, I'd go with the "non-B" CZ 85.

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

I have a CZ75B with the Omega.... 1. I've not heard or had any of the issues mentioned. I love it, and when I let others shoot it, without any prompting, most people remark that the trigger is great.

I'd buy another....

 

[Capt. Obvious]

Long ago I had an early CZ P-07 Duty that I'm almost positive had the omega trigger. I could be mistaken though. I originally purchased it to be a winter carry pistol. However, I just didn't like the way it felt when I took it to the range. I can't really remember if it was because of the trigger or due to it being top heavy, or both. I bet I didn't even have it a month.

 

[ku4hx]

My 75B is carried cocked and locked. And through hundreds of rounds, I don't think I've ever fired it double action. I have no problem with a double action, but a better one is, for me, of little consequence.

Comparing my 75B's SA letoff to other known crisp SAs it's really quite nice.

 

[Ben86]

I own the omega and a stainless B model. The omega trigger is heavier in double action, but lighter and shorter in single action. The regular trigger is smoother all around and has a more destinct break. Because I carry in DA I prefer the regular trigger system. However the upswept beavertail of the omega is really nice. My stainless model has the beavertail and regular trigger system so it's a win-win. I keep the omega model just so I can pair it with a cadet kit in the near future.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I like having a "B" if I decide that I want to carry mine. But if the primary intended use for the gun is range only, I'd go with the "non-B" CZ 85.

If you do that because you want SA function, you really ought to consider a 75B SA -- that trigger can be adjusted so that over-travel and takeup are greatly reduced. The P-07/P-09 can be setup with the safeties, but many leave the decocker installed. If you want SA function the P-07/P-09 offer that, too -- and with a slightly more user friendly safety lever than the standard 75B safety. (The SA models have much larger, easier to use safety "switches.")

I picked up a used P-07 recently, already broken in, and really can't say enough NICE things. It's one of the best CZs I've owned in terms of un-gunsmithed triggers. (And believe me when I say, I've had a bunch of CZs, including some nicely tuned by knowledgeable gunsmiths. The P-07 is also LIGHTER than other CZs, which makes it a potentially better carry gun; recoil is not noticeably worse by it's lighter weight.

 

[snooperman]

I have the Sphinx SDP and my Brother-in-law has the CZ P07. At my farm range recently I shot his P07 and liked the trigger better than the trigger on my SDP Sphinx and H&K P30. It is that good. That said I really like my Sphinx SDP as it is a well made gun, but plan on getting the CZ P07 soon. I like it as do most people who have them. It is a fine pistol for the money and the Omega trigger makes it so.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I have the Sphinx SDP and my Brother-in-law has the CZ P07. At my farm range recently I shot his P07 and liked the trigger better than the trigger on my SDP Sphinx and H&K P30. It is that good. That said I really like my Sphinx SDP as it is a well made gun, but plan on getting the CZ P07 soon. I like it as do most people who have them. It is a fine pistol for the money and the Omega trigger makes it so.

You can't go wrong with either the SDP or the P-07. I have both.

To improve the trigger on the SDP, order a set of 16 lb. or 17 lb. CZ compact hammer springs from Wolff. The gun is already smooth and crisp, and the slightly lower poundage hammer springs will cut the trigger pull weights almost in half. The Stock SDP hammer is heavy. (They're a lot easier to swap out than the standard CZ...)

Cajun Gun Works has parts for both guns. I have the CGW 13 lb. trigger kit for the SDP, but just haven't installed it yet... I will eventually.

 

[1John1:9]

I was debating on the two myself at one time.

I found a used 75BD Police (non-omega), and have done a bunch of modifications to it. Since there is a TON of folks who have done modifications to the old standard CZ 75, I would go with that one. It is more tried and true. It was absolutely fun to work on mine.

Having said that, if you don't like to tinker, the Omega trigger is NICE.

 

[snooperman]

Walt, Thanks for the info to improve the SDP trigger, but will the 16 lb spring cause light hammer strikes on the primers?

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Walt, Thanks for the info to improve the SDP trigger, but will the 16 lb spring cause light hammer strikes on the primers?

It may depend on the gun and how well broken-in it is. A fried who had an SDP installed the 16 lb. spring and had no problems. I tried the 16 lb. spring and had some light strikes but it was new and low mileage -- but I didn't care for the trigger pull weight with the STOCK springs. Others seem to have good success. I used the 17 lb. spring and had no problems. (I'd suggest getting both -- and the 16 lb. spring will probably be good, later.) I could probably reinstall the 16 lb. spring, soon, and have it work right.

Cajun Gun Works has a trigger kit that includes the trigger spring, a new spring for the firing pin stop, a 13 lb. hammer spring. I suspect that David polishes up some of the metal on metal interfaces when he installs them, but I've only heard raves about this kit.

I like the 17 lb. kit I installed, and it greatly lightened the trigger, both DA and SA.

 

[snooperman]

A Big thank you to Walt for his advice on the 17 lb Wolff spring in my SDP pistol. I got it 2 days ago and have put 200 rds through it and "WOW" what a big difference it makes. The trigger is just great now.