CZ75B or CZ75B SA?

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Yet again I need help with decision, this time between a CZ75B and a CZ75B SA. Of the two, which has the better out of the box trigger? Any difference in accuracy or workmanship?
 
It's been a while since I handled an SA, but as for "better" triggers out of the box, the SA gets the nod, as it is supposed to be a target/competition pistol. Shorter reset, more consistent. Now, after a few hundred rounds, many bone stock 75Bs are nice handling as well...

Not sure if CZ-USA is still shipping the SAs with the plastic "blade" trigger, but metal ones should be available from the parts store.
 
Out of the box, triggers from CZ can be a bit on the gritty side. Time, or a trigger job helps a bunch.

Dedicated CZ gunsmiths who are well known include Mike Eagleshield, Jim Miossi, Angus Hobdell or Matt Mink. Matt Mink did my trigger job and disabled the mag brake.

No matter which one you get, you're going to be happy. As a guy who learned on wheelguns, I like that first double action shot, so its the 75B for me.
 
I was at the range on Sat and a guy let me shoot his brand new CZ75 SA (I was shooting his gun while he was salvaging my brass so we both came out ahead. :) ) Really nice SA trigger. Break was crisp, no creep, and not terribly heavy.

I wish my SP01 had that type of SA trigger pull instead of the gritty, crunchy, creepy, rough trigger pull it's got. I love the accuracy, but man that trigger needs some work. :(
 
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Do you have the root page for that link? I'd like to read all his CZ pages.
 
I have the SA, and I like this handgun. The trigger pull is still a little long, but fairly smooth. Personally, I stay away from DA auto when I have a choice within the same type model.
 
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Did the gun you shot have a trigger job, or was it nicely broken in?

Through my reading on the CZ forum, the SA CZ 75 does NOT necessarily have a better SA trigger than the DA/SA 75B. Thus, I'm not sure of the utility if you would have ever used/wanted the DA feature. If you don't like DA at all, it is a different story.
 
I was at the range on Sat and a guy let me shoot his brand new CZ75 SA (I was shooting his gun while he was salvaging my brass so we both came out ahead. ) Really nice SA trigger. Break was crisp, no creep, and not terribly heavy.

How's it compare to say, 1) a Springfield GI 1911 trigger or 2) a nicely tuned 1911 trigger? And 3) do you know if it had been worked on, or if it was just the factory SAO trigger?
 
When I bought my cz75b I looked at a cz75b sa first. The trigger on that particular gun wasn't very good. It was kind of gritty. The trigger on my75b was much better. My stepson had a 75bd that the single action trigger was better than both, go figure. Mark
 
Thanks for all the responses. I decided to go with a plain Jane CZ75B. Pics and range report to follow.
 
How's it compare to say, 1) a Springfield GI 1911 trigger or 2) a nicely tuned 1911 trigger? And 3) do you know if it had been worked on, or if it was just the factory SAO trigger?

1) I've got a Springfield Loaded model. There was a bit of takeup with the CZ before engaging the sear, more than the 1911. But once the sear was engaged it broke very crisply. Perhaps a wee bit lighter than the 1911, but don't hold me to that since I haven't fired my 1911 in several weeks.

2) Got me, I've never shot one with a tuned trigger.

3) I'm pretty sure it was the factory trigger. I had never met the guy before. He said he used to shoot IDPA with a 1911, but due to the rising cost of ammo decided to switch to 9mm and had just recently bought the CZ SA. He didn't say anything about a trigger job or recommend any smiths when I commented that I wish my SP01 had a trigger like that.
 
Railroader

has it right - EVERY gun varies - you cannot go just by braind or model (OK - SIG P210...). Buit other than that you have to try the GUN.

My best CZ trigger is on my pawn shop special - and it is my cheapest CZ.
 
Also be aware that the SA model has a different slide with full-length rails instead of the Hi-Power style lightening cuts on the regular B model, so it might not fit into all CZ-75 holsters.
 
The SA also has a different frame than the regular 75 that allows a higher grip, as well as an ambi safety, an extended mag releas, and no mag brake (so they drop free) if those things matter to you. Personally, I like the looks and ergonomics of the SA better than the standard B.

As for the trigger, on my SA, it was a little rough when i first got it, but after several hundred dry fires and about 400 rounds, it got much lighter and smoother. Now, it has a little bit of takeup (that could be corrected with the metal trigger that CZ sells) and some creep, but breaks predictably.
 
I strolled by a shop...

That usually has a big markup. I always heard about other folks scoring at PS's, but not me. Anyway, I saw this 75 non-B (with no firing pin block) and picked it up. DA was a bit scratchy, but the SA broke very clean and even. They wanted too much. I low balled and they came back with $330 - I said if it is out the door, I'd take it - came with no box and one PreB 15 rounder. It has a semi-gloss blue - not as dark as the current blue, but unique and easy to touch up. I did an action job on it and with remoil the DA is good now also. Here is a pic.

(BTW - I added the cocobolos)
 

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my first post!

after a lot of consideration and research, i bought the sa. i had heard the trigger would be lighter, liked the idea of the ambi safety, drop free, etc, as mentioned above.

i also got the kadet adaptor, which works perfectly on the sa. locks back. only malfunctions so far were with cci blazers (a few stovepipes). remington target and cci minimags gave me my best couple groups so far.

i've been shooting more .22 than 9mm since i'm trying to refine my technique. i've had it to the range only 3 times so far, with fewer than 500 rounds through it. and i've been practicing the long slow gradual pull on the trigger but it was hard to be surprised by the break, since i was warned in advance by the gritty scrape of the trigger - until the most recent couple magazines through it when i received a very pleasant surprise. the trigger became very smooth and light and the break really did become a surprise. i don't mind a little bit of pretravel - i figure it's safer to have a few millimeters of travel before the gun fires.

one question though (my knowledge of the inner workings of an autoloader are fairly limited at this point): does the sa have the firing pin block?
 
Unfortunately...

They ALL do except for the 85 Combat. If CZ got rid of the FRB and the square trigger guard, they'd be smokin". And... made a P01 with a MANUAL safety!
 
Nice Transitional you have there Brian. I have one just like it only with polymer finish, old style slidestop & safety, and trijicon sights.
 
IMO, the CZ 75B can do everything the SA can do (condition one carry, etc) PLUS the option of a hammer down DA pull, so why bother with the SA?
 
Boogalou

Thanks. I put a B slide stop on to save the PreB stop for my PreB in case I ever need it. And, the B stop is a bit better for thumbs forward hold. Got a pic of your transitional?
 
Did the gun you shot have a trigger job, or was it nicely broken in?

I'm sorry. I just saw the question. No, it did not have a trigger job. The trigger is smooth, but long.
 
briang2ad,

Nice score on the transitional!

I just got my new CZ75B, took it out of the box and gave it a good bath. briang2ad called it on the variation on DA/SA, a CZ75B that I had previously, also bought NIB, didn't have anywhere as nice a trigger out of the box as this one does.
 
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