Czeck bxn 86 7.62x54r

[M91/30]

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo020.htm
I have been buying this at the local pawn shop and it seems to shoot decent for me(mosin nagant) but I have been wondering a few things.

Is it corrosive? The head-stamp is 86(year) so did they switch over to a non-corrosive load?(still clean it good regardless)

Why did the Czech's make 7.62x54r ammo in the mid 80's to begin with? (It looks military)

What would they use it in? (Mg's I think would use heavy ball... maybe svd?)

It all in all seems to be decent ammo, comes in convenient cardboard boxes, and seems to measure out to be .313 bullets(good for my nagant due to a larger bore)

Any info, input, thought's, are appreciated. Thanks

 

[Shadow 7D]

yes
treat all ammo as corrosive unless told otherwise

Hell, they are still using corrosive primers on some military ammo in eastern europe today.

 

[Cosmoline]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's corrosive primed. I've shot a LOT of green box Czech 54R over the years and it will rust things up if not cleaned promptly. Apart from that it's good ammo.

The more modern production S&B Czech 54R doesn't seem to be corrosive, but it's quite a bit more expensive. I believe they make the Winchester metric rounds for that cartridge as well.

 

[Phaethon]

I never really understood why they did either, but keep in mind that Czechoslovakia was at the time under the Communist sphere, and the 54r round was still relatively popular in Russian arms at the time. There's a good chance they were equipped with Russian machine guns and used VZ-54 sniper/designated marksman rifles (they look pretty much like retooled Mosins from what I've seen of them). They might also have used Dragunov pattern rifles at some point.

 

[Frozen North]

All 7.62x54r ammo is corrosive unless it is stated otherwise.

My gun likes the corrosive light surplus stuff better than anything. It is also the cheapest! Shoot the stuff till your shoulder hurts and rinse the bore good!

 

[nathan]

i bet the Libyans are using them right now in their machineguns. From Russian , Polish, Czech, Yugo , Romanian, ALbanian made ammunitions are pretty common in Middle Eastern armies.

 

[Cosmoline]

The Czechs also had some very interesting carbines made from old M91 rifles. They're prized collector's items these days.

 

[_N4Z_]

Why did the Czech's make 7.62x54r ammo in the mid 80's to begin with? (It looks military)

Because they were Warsaw Pact, commie pinko's. It was the cold war and there was a fence. We were on that fence watching them 24/7.
Many of the 91/30's that can be had for 80 bucks were stored in warehouses at that time. At the ready in case the balloon ever went up. Additionally the SVD, PSL, and similar designated marksman rifles were chambered for the round, and still are. The PKM machinegun was/is chambered in that round. That is why they made/make x54r ammo.

Ironcially, 20+ years later I own several rifles chambered in it, and handload it for competition. It is a great round.

 

[M91/30]

Neat, thanks for the info. Its the little things like that, that make getting surplus stuff interesting. As if firearms weren't interesting already.

 

[Vaarok]

The PK was in use, is in use, and will be for a long time. GPMGs eat ammo at a prodigious rate, thus they produced lots of cheap corrosive ammo for them.