DA/SA Hammer .40

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This is what I'm in the market for. In the order of most important to least important I want: reliability, ergonomics, accuracy, fit+finish.

So far, I have been looking most closely at the P-07 and the FNP. I have a P-07 in 9mm, and it's probably my most favorite gun I've ever shot. However, I'm a bit worried about the reliability of it in .40 (as CZ seems to have some troubles with .40), and there aren't enough out there to really hear anything solid yet.

Thanks!
 
There are lots of police trade in 3rd Gen S&W metal frame autos out there. If your pockets are deep there are always the superb SIG P series pistols as well. HKs are very nice polymer frame pistols, but I'd rather have the machined metal frame SIG for the same money - YMMV. That said, I've taken the FNP armorer's course, and those are impressive pistols when you get into the guts of them.
 
The FNP is a sweet pistol and comes with three magazines. It handles well, has one of the best triggers I've ever encountered and is a breeze to maintain. You can get one for about $550.00 and it's well worth it. Did I mention the three magazines?

The SIG is an outstanding pistol, no doubt about it. But I had the choice between the SIG P226 and the FNP and I went with the FN Herstal pistol. Haven't regretted it.
 
As much of a fan as I am of CZ 9mm. I avoid CZ 40s they seem to have their far share of issues.

The HK USP full size and compact 40s are darn good in my experience with them.
 
Beretta Px4 40

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Beretta Px4 40, very soft shooting, accurate, very accurate and one of, if not, the easiest guns to disassemble, inspect, clean, and reassemble, out there, bar none.

Rotating barrel makes for reliability and dependably and, with the one I have owned for 3yrs, I have an ongoing total round count, flawless, not one hiccup, of just about at the 10k round mark thus far.. :)

Balanced, forgiving, and great DA/SA triggers right out of the box and only get better, quickly, with use..

A very forgiving gun, even when shot one handed, never failed, fails..

Beretta has reduced the MRSP to 500.00 NIB - just announced


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+1 on the PX4. My "other" 9mm is a PX4 I bought to got with my CX4 carbine. Magazines with up to 20 round capacity are available. I have four 17-round and two 20-round mags. Don't have as many rounds through mine (yet) but I am working on it.
 
Before I really got into firearms, the Storm was very much an object of my affection. I heard some stories about them being very unreliable though. Sounds like they got most of the kinks worked out though, eh?
 
Don't forget about the Beretta 96. A .40 cal version of the classic 92FS. Metal frame, butter-smooth action, DA/SA, accurate, reliable, and darn sexy.
 
Don't forget about the Beretta 96. A .40 cal version of the classic 92FS. Metal frame, butter-smooth action, DA/SA, accurate, reliable, and darn sexy.

Honestly, I've had the Beretta 96 and the Beretta 90-Two. The 90-Two handled the .40 round much better than the 96 and the ergonomics were astounding.
 
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The real rotating barrel negatives started with the Cougar series which used a slightly different cut, less forgiving, if you will, in the slot groove and the return spring housing that clks on-top of it.. Mainly, more than anything else, lack of "lasting lubrication in that critical area.. In LEA's continuous shooting classes, they fire 200 - 300 or more continuous/rapid, type, rounds -shooting exercises, and what gets the hottest the fastest ? - the_barrel and light oil just evaporates quickly given the right amount of ongoing heat until the timing is metal to metal slow down.. thus jams.

The much improved Px4's more forgiving cuts/design is far more, long reaching, forgiving in this area but can fall to the same problem IF bone dry.. but it takes longer to occur, but should not IF one simply treats the area correctly, along with, take 5 mins to simply disassemble one's gun, inspect that area and rails/guides, feed ramp (which really hardly is used, as the bullets actually go basically straight in vs tilt-up barrel action/loading.. as it just rotates and one can see this:

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A very simple method/application of many of the excellent gun greases out there, like what I use, Tetra white gun grease has, and will, go the distance, for me, 800 rounds before cleaning and reapplications.. It could go twice that, easy, but it only takes, me, but 5 mins for a quick clean, reapplication of lubricates or 15mins - 20 mins (real time/actual handling) for full bore, barrel solvent cleaning and Eezox gun, all metal, mag interior walls, etc., treatments.. And, let gun, barrel, sit for 30 mins, then finish it up and she's back together rdy for use..

It could go longer and has with a few of the Comp shooters I know and in torture test 2 have gone well over 2000 rounds without any additional lubrication's in the interim..

Bottom line: the Px4 series in either 9mm, 40cal, or 45cal that use the rotating barrels will go "the distance" for the "more than average needs of any shooter using a Px4 for HD/SD or just range shooting or Competitions..

Like I said, and know, these guns "are very forgiving" and any limp-wristing, one handed, weak handed, shots will not effect their shoot, eject, load, and take the next shot, and the next and the next.. Tried and tried and no jams, nada, just ever-ongoing shots hitting POA..

The key is weather/temp and known round count per cleanings/applications as sever cold weather and grease can get thick.. and oil works well here vs hot weather, oil evaporates much quicker, and gun grease stays thin but does not evaporate (for the very most part).. Personally, winter/summer, I use Tetra first and then apply just a tad of M-Pro7 oil in barrel slot groove and bottom and sides of return spring housing that clks on top of the barrel slot.. never fails, not thru 3yrs/nearly 10k rounds, as mentioned before.

My biggest suggestion for any buyer is simply chk out all the Px4's any dealer has and, "upon inspection" for finish, barrel lock-up tightness, and DA trigger pulls for the smoothest one, with the cleanest, sharpest, SA trigger break, is the gun you want to buy, as it will only get better and better vs just taking the one the clerk hands you.. chk them all out, "you're the_buyer" and want the best NIB one to start off with and stay with as it just gets better and better..

Luck,


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Honestly, I've had the Beretta 96 and the Beretta 90-Two. The 90-Two handled the .40 round much better than the 96 and the ergonomics were astounding.
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I believe this 100%, as I shot a buds 9mm 90-Two and it was better than his other 92FS.. far better, just a great gun with added benefits that work in the shooters favor.. And 90-Two vs all metal, heavier 96 series is no surprise that it, too, is a far better, softer shooter, in 40, than its older/school heavier 96 brothers..

OMMV


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