Daily News : Article full of faulty "logic"

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Perhaps I am just having a mentally slow day because I forgot my vitamin today, but I had to read this 3 times before it mad any sense. Please take a moment and polietely let Stanley how his logic is faulted. I think he drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago, but if we can educate just one reporter...


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/columnists/crouch/index.html#community


NRA needs to set its sights on illegal firearms dealers

Bullets get around, and so do the high-speed limousines that propel them around: guns. Bullets and guns make a very cold team - notorious for not caring about the identity of the target. When the gun is fired, anyone who is not wearing armor and is hit will go down.

Bullets aren't concerned with important or unimportant, good or bad, brilliant or stupid. The bullet's job is mechanical indifference to identity, the persistent ignoring of essences.

Bullets have never cared about Presidents or rabble-rousers or masters of nonviolent engagement. This is why we were shocked by the public murders of John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, the Rev. Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy. Bullets almost canceled George Wallace's check for the right to live and even sent Ronald Reagan tumbling down.

The crack trade in the 1980s led to many illegal guns floating through the so-called inner city, where a cult of criminality was born and reinforced by the riches to be had. Thousands of people have been slaughtered over the years and guns are now so established to end conflict that touchy, armed adolescents often enjoy intimidating grown men and reversing the pecking order until brutal power comes from the bottom.

The recent shootings in New York have led to one new thought: the sale of illegal firearms should be prosecuted as involuntary manslaughter, as conspiracy to commit murder and so on whenever a weapon used in a shooting can be traced to its seller.

This seems something that the National Rifle Association could get behind since its spokesmen are so quick to explain most murders are committed by criminals with illegal, unlicensed firearms. Instead of going berserk and responding as though any form of gun control is but one more step toward disarming the citizenry, the NRA should clarify its position on illegally purchased firearms.

Though it may sound like a marriage made in purgatory, I think the NRA could eventually be persuaded to back legislation focused solely on the gun runners of America who supply the majority of firearms used in robberies, murders and stickups.

While the group takes the right to bear arms quite seriously, I doubt that NRA members believe their rights should include the sale of illegal firearms to the many youths who were arrested with such weapons last year in New York City. There, more than 1,000 kids - one-third of those 17 or younger - are arrested for carrying a gun each year.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, 4,043 illegal guns were confiscated in the city last year.

I cannot imagine the members of the NRA cheering whenever they see television news about another murderous run made by some loon who bought his guns on the black market. Or laughing as they study the amount of corpses stacked up yearly in almost every urban area in America.

Gun fairs are for another discussion. For now, I think we should move to put more pressure on gun dealers to seek another line of work. I also think RICO laws about the conspiracy to commit crime could be adapted to fit the sale of illegal firearms. Then we would be getting somewhere.

If these people want to be indifferent to the slaughters raging through America like wildfires, let's see how cold and indifferent they can be when the heat is on them.

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Funny thing is, the only time I use NY Daily News or NY Times is that if there is bubble gum stuck under my shoes, and I need something to wipe it off.
 
I think a gun fair is where everyone dresses up as their favorite gun. Or was that a gun faire...
 
I agree, illegal firearm purchases should be punished heavily.

But what the HELL does that have to do with the NRA, gun dealers, and law abiding citizens?

Oh, that's right, we need to blame Walgreens and pharmaceutical manufacturers when some idiot overdoses on Vicodin that he bought illegally on the street.... it's their fault! It's also the old lady's fault who has some in her medicine cabinet!! Who NEEDS painkillers that strong anyway? That's like the kind the military uses!
 
Written by someone who is completely ignorant about the process of buying a firearm.
...and also about the process of writing a coherent, non-rambling essay.
 
So, he wants to make the stolen gun market super-duper illegal?

the sale of illegal firearms should be prosecuted as involuntary manslaughter, as conspiracy to commit murder and so on whenever a weapon used in a shooting can be traced to its seller.

O.K., go ahead, but can I be there when such a prosecution on those grounds is laughed out of court? Besides, after the Columbine massacre did not was not the straw buyer prosecuted?

Here's the big rub, such a prosecution is based on the fact that people are already dead. Why not allow potential victims to fight back instead?
 
What the hell was the point of that article?

What do they call the writing process where you jot down thoughts as soon as they come into your head? It basically winds up as mental diarrhea projected onto paper. That's what this article is.
 
"Bullets get around, and so do the high-speed limousines that propel them around: guns. Bullets and guns make a very cold team - notorious for not caring about the identity of the target."

Notorious? Funny, I thought it was common knowledge that guns and cartridges (or "bullets," if he wants to use that term) were inanimate objects that couldn't make decisions on their own. :banghead:

"When the gun is fired, anyone who is not wearing armor and is hit will go down."

Only the smart people will hit the deck. The other ones will remain standing, though not for very long, perhaps. :neener:
 
Gun fairs are for another discussion.
??????????????

Didn't you ever have a gun fair when you were growing up? It's like a career fair, but all the companies are in arms production, and everybody gets a free G17 at the end.
 
OK, here's my attempt to educate him:
Dear Mr. Crouch,

I thought you made some good points in your article about illegal gun dealers. As a gun owner I can agree with you that guns and bullets do not have wills of their own. I also agree that people that sell guns illegally, knowingly providing criminals with guns, should be punished.

I was a little surprised that your article seemed to omit the idea that the criminals who commit crimes with guns should be held responsible. Would you agree that of all the places we can place the blame, this would be the most accurate and just?

I was also a little disturbed by your comment, "...armed adolescents often enjoy intimidating grown men and reversing the pecking order until brutal power comes from the bottom." This almost implies that there should be a natural pecking order, or that brutal power should only come from the top. Your comment has in fact hit on the very essence of why gun owners can be so determined to maintain their gun owning rights. We know that better than anything else, firearms provide the power to defend our lives, rights, and freedoms in situations where we would be hopelessly overpowered without them.

Would you agree that armed African Americans enjoyed reversing the pecking order when the KKK showed up at their houses?

Let's enforce the law. Let's focus on the criminals. Those that are committing violent crimes as well as those that seek to profit from arming criminals illegally. The NRA does not need to set its sights on illegal gun dealers. That is the job of the BATFE.

Sincerely,

(JKimball)
 
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