Daisy 177 memories

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Shortly after receiving my first Daisy air rifle before starting first grade, my Dad's baby brother offered me his Daisy 177 pistol.

I know that today some folks think so little of the "Improved Targeteer" that they would say it was no favor to a kid to offer such an under powered bit of steel and plastic to him.

The thing did not shoot anywhere near as "hard" as the air rifle, maybe not even hard enough to shoot you sister's eye out. Perhaps this is the reason that I was allowed to play with the 177 un supervised and not the air rifle.

I soon learned that the 177 could not hit cans clear across the yard without an elevation that reminded one of fixed angle Civil War Mortars. Against steel soup or bean cans at 15 feet or so the cans often as not only rocked and refused to fall over. Cocking the pistol was gastly.

There were finger grooves like on a "real" semi auto pistol, but best I could figure those were just for looks. Uncle cocked the gun by holding the grip in his firing hand and placing his other palm over the muzzle and pushing his hands towards one an other. Even as a preschooler this looked a bit unsafe to me so as soon as the gun and I were alone I did most of my shooting next to the back porch. The porch was about shoulder high on the little feller I was at the time so I just used both hands on the grips and shoved the muzzle against the edge of the porch. Fast, easy , and not pointed at my hand.

I soon found that a piece of paper taped to a bit of card board as often as not was not torn enough to easily find a hole in it at over 15 feet. An unsupported bit of paper taped so it hung beneath a stick as often as not simply was pushed out of the way at range to allow the BB to pass witn no hole or even mark.

Still I was the only kid in the neighborhood with a "real" pistol. Mine shot BBs after all and not a cork or plastic faux bullet.

It was while I was getting ready to come in from playing with L-PAM that I finally hit on the real use for the 177. Yep, Little Plastic Army Men saved my daisy from the bottom of the toy box. SOme relative had given me these stupid little Army Men that did not look GI or Axis and someone else had given me Cowboys and Native Americans which had no value for me other than as place holders when I ran out of OD green, Yellowish or grey L-PAM or those hidous blue things with U shaped hands and removable weapons.

On a whim I took aim at a Hidious Blue U handed trooper about four yards away with the 177 and "CHACK" and down he went. About five minutes and twenty L-PAM later I got a scolding for failing to come to supper promptly and leaving L-PAM laying about the dirt in the back yard.....but grinned like an idiot through the tongue lashing.

Over the next three years I have no idea how many BBs knocked down how many L-PAM but it set me on the road to pistol shooting.

I would hardly call the 177 useless as a result. However when the CO2 200 made its appearance the remains of the 177 went back to Uncle and L-PAM began to take horrible wounds and fly rather than simply falling down.

-kBob
 
Tbanks for sharing kBob, i always like those stories. I still have the first daisy i got, and my old crossman...moved onto other stuff but still like to take them out from time to time
 
I had a daisy pistol growing up. It sort of looked like a real gun. It was certainly heavy enough to be one. Cocking effort was tremendous for such a small amount of velocity but its was still fun to shoot. My brother and I used to collect pop cans and turn them in for a deposit refund. Then we would high tail it over to the hardware store and pick up a milk carton of BB's. Remember when they came in milk cartons? I miss those days. We had a lot of fun with that little pistol, as well as our Red Ryder rifles too. Nothing was safe in our yard!
 
Good story!

I still have a milk carton of Copperhead BBs w/maybe 20% left in it. Bad quality BBs, but at the time they were all I could get locally (pre online days). When the CO2 200 came out, a few of my friends got them. Were a lot of fun while they worked.
 
I had a Marksman 1010 that shot like that. Huge, curving arcs that sometimes included two or three BBs at a time. Funny thing, though, was that I was eighteen years old, and had never owned anything that shot anything "hard" like that before (my mom was relatively anti-gun, at least, anti-anything-that-shoots-anything-gun.) I bought it on a whim just after finishing high school and while waiting for my report date with the Army to come up about two months later. I thought I could at least practice "shooting something" with it.

Though I got no real use out of it, I do still have it, 32 years later. I think, in my garage, I still have one of the old cartons mentioned above of the Copperhead BBs, though the bulk of them is likely "melted" together by corrosion and breakdown.
 
Very good story!

Daisy makes some very inexpensive air guns that don't look like they should shoot as good as they do. I probably own more Daisy products that I do any other firearm- 853, three 499b's, 747 pistol and a red ryder- all of them are accurate, work and keep on working. Well, the red ryder isn't that accurate, but it works:)

A while back I splurged and ordered 60k daisy zinc bb's.... for my bb gun stockpiling arsenal:)
 
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60 thousand BBs- that's a lotsa BBs! Wait- I missed a decimal. Still, a lotta BBs, I thought I was stocked up w/2 canisters of 6000 but have gone through one already (2 months, about).
 
When I was a kid I salvaged a lot of my BBs by shooting into boxes of card board or wadded news paper or a carpet reminant. Of course the ones shot in the field were mostly gone though I occasionally mined a sand bank for BBs but my buddies were always afraid I might still have sand with those and would not use them.

I seem to recall the Jay Cees program caught the BBs from their 99s with a sheet of loose heavy canvas and recovered about every BB.

Couple of years back the local Cub Scouts ran out of BBs the first day of a week long Day Camp. I brought in a pound or so of BBs and was appalled to see the instructors had the boys shooting the BBs out into the surrounding woodlands with no attempt to recover any. I felt it was a bad lesson for the boys on several levels. The Dinosaur Pack, The boys from all over the county assigned to me at the camp, got a lesson on the value of appropriate back stops after they class with the BB guns during lunch.

After burying Dad today (nice service and his antique car club showed up with over 30 classic cars to cruise him "home") Mom said she wants me to have all his guns so there is at least a chance I will be getting another old style Daisy that sits in the garage. I know that at one point a couple of years ago I saw one of the card board tubes with cardboard slip caps that BBs cam in in the late 1960s near the nook the airgun lives in so maybe I will find that next month or so as well. I bought him one of the newer style side gate Red Riders a few years back so that may sill be around as well.

-kBob
 
My condolences on your dads passing kBob, sounds like he was well respected and lived a good life!
Also sounds like his guns, air guns and all, are going to a good home.

Good work with the kids, we never had anyone teach us about back stop till we shot stuff we shouldn't have....then hindsight kicked in....
 
To this day when I walk the property I always check the soda cans I have discreetly placed as BB gun targets. I pocket any I find and reuse 'em. Old habits die hard and all that...
 
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