Sneakshot92
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Hmm.. It sounds like the OP really wants a DA/SA or I'd say Blackhawk. Oh wait. I just did.
Dan Wesson rechamber?
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Hmm.. It sounds like the OP really wants a DA/SA or I'd say Blackhawk. Oh wait. I just did.
I would buy a second Dan Wesson cylinder and crane and keep the original .44 cylinder. (look on ebay)
I would shorten the .45lc cylinder about 3/16" then make the .45 barrel 3/16" longer and use the .44 thread pattern. (If you put a .44 barrel with the .45lc frame there will be an 3/16" gap indicating something isn't right.)
Turn and thread a .45 barrel blank to fit the .44 shroud.
Turn a bushing to fit the barrel hole in the frame and use it to bore the .44 (.429) cylinder to .45. in the frame for perfect alignment of the cylined with the barrel bore.
Remove the cylinder from the frame and ream the .45lc chambers.
Very clearly etch .44 barrels with ".44" and very clearly etch .45 barrels with ".45".
Assemble and shoot!
It shouldn't be that difficult of an operation.
When you are finished with your reversable conversion you will need to send the barrel hole cylinder alignment bushing to me!
I would ask EWK firearms about performng the conversion. They already manfacture Dan Wesson barrels so they will have all the tooling, measurements and dies needed to make a .45 barrel with .44 barrel threads. The Dan Wesson revolver guy at CZ is also supposed to be and excellent resource. Look on the Dan Wesson board for his name and contact information.
I think doing this conversion would be quite foolish if you didn't have 2", 4", 6" and 8" .45lc barrels made to fit the available 2", 4", 6", and 8" .44 barrel shrouds.
I would shorten the .45lc cylinder about 3/16" then make the .45 barrel 3/16" longer and use the .44 thread pattern. (If you put a .44 barrel with the .45lc frame there will be an 3/16" gap indicating something isn't right.)
Turn and thread a .45 barrel blank to fit the .44 shroud.
Turn a bushing to fit the barrel hole in the frame and use it to bore the .44 (.429) cylinder to .45. in the frame for perfect alignment of the cylined with the barrel bore.
Remove the cylinder from the frame and ream the .45lc chambers.
Very clearly etch .44 barrels with ".44" and very clearly etch .45 barrels with ".45".
Assemble and shoot!
It shouldn't be that difficult of an operation.
When you are finished with your reversable conversion you will need to send the barrel hole cylinder alignment bushing to me!
I would ask EWK firearms about performng the conversion. They already manfacture Dan Wesson barrels so they will have all the tooling, measurements and dies needed to make a .45 barrel with .44 barrel threads. The Dan Wesson revolver guy at CZ is also supposed to be and excellent resource. Look on the Dan Wesson board for his name and contact information.
I think doing this conversion would be quite foolish if you didn't have 2", 4", 6" and 8" .45lc barrels made to fit the available 2", 4", 6", and 8" .44 barrel shrouds.
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CraigC
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Easier said than done. Been looking for six months.
It would be foolish to give up the cylinder length.
no.5enfield
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I may just go that route. It's the right size and i love my alaskan's action.
Riomouse911
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Rather than fiddle with lengthening this or shortening that, just engrave the 45 Colt barrels themselves with a nice, visible .45 COLT on them. Same for the cylinder if you want, have .45 COLT etched on the face to keep it hidden or maybe around the cylinder like the .454 Redhawk has. (Not my favorite, but it works.)
The DW barrels are already hidden by the shroud, no one will see it until they remove the shroud and reveal the barrel underneath. You could also team a stainless barrel with a blued gun or vice-versa to make it really obvious they’re different.
This way you keep the clean lines of the DW without going to all that extra expense of tinkering with lengths on top of the conversion costs.
Just a thought...
Stay safe.
Rather than fiddle with lengthening this or shortening that, just engrave the 45 Colt barrels themselves with a nice, visible .45 COLT on them. Same for the cylinder if you want, have .45 COLT etched on the face to keep it hidden or maybe around the cylinder like the .454 Redhawk has. (Not my favorite, but it works.)
The DW barrels are already hidden by the shroud, no one will see it until they remove the shroud and reveal the barrel underneath. You could also team a stainless barrel with a blued gun or vice-versa to make it really obvious they’re different.
This way you keep the clean lines of the DW without going to all that extra expense of tinkering with lengths on top of the conversion costs.
Just a thought...
Stay safe.
Yep, you guys are right. The .45 lc and .44 mag are both ~1.6" oal. No reason to cut down the cylinder. When I last visited this as a personal project I was considering .45 acp to make a really heavy .45 acp range revolver which is why I was looking at shortening the cylinder. That doesn't make sense with .45 LC. (I already load large quantities of .45 acp but don't load .45 LC. Not having a new caliber to load for had a lot of appeal. .45 LC is definitely a better, more universal cartridge than .45 acp especially in a strong action like a DW 44/744.)
When I purchased my DW 744 I was actually looking for a decent priced S&W 625 in .45 LC or .45 acp. I scored a great price on my DW 744 and fell in love with it! I love the interchangeable barrels and the EWK quick attach/remove muzzle brake! The SA pull on my 744 is every bit as good if not better than the S&W 625's I looked at in the gun stores.
P.S. The Dan Wesson cylinders are out there. I have run across a few DW 44 cylinders (blued) and decided to hold off for a stainless cylinder. But right now I am just really enjoying shooting down loaded .44 mag ammo so I have pretty much given up on a .45 DW revolver... even though it would be very cool and very versatile!
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unspellable
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What's your opinion of how much the muzzle brake does?
CraigC
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If you do decide to go the Dan Wesson .45 route, let me know. I wouldn't mind swapping my cylinder for yours.
I notice quite a difference in full power loads with the EWK muzzle brake on my 744 between the extra weight on the barrel and redirection of gasses. The guy did a nice job designing the latest version of the muzzle brake in that it seems to exhaust a lot of gas and the ports always point upwards regardless of how the threading on the barrel is indexed.
To me my 744 with 4" barrel and brake has about the same or less muzzle flip than my 744 and 8" barrel with scope and no brake. The 8" barrel with a scope mounted and the EWK brake on the muzzle of the barrel way out there is just too front heavy to shoot comfortably in my opinion. The brake on the 4" is nicely weighted and makes the 744 more fun to shoot... for me at least.
I don't have a 6" barrel to compare the weight / muzzle flip with, but I would like to pick one up someday. I am very impressed with the 4" barrel and shroud I purchased from CZ. CZ appears to be making very well manufactured and very nicely finished Dan Wesson barrels. EWK does not seem to be making barrels / shrouds any more.
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unspellable
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I have an EWK brake/compensator? Haven't gotten around to trying it yet.
My impression is that he lets an item sell out and accumulates a few requests before he makes another batch.
My impression is that he lets an item sell out and accumulates a few requests before he makes another batch.
no.5enfield
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Just got outbid on one. I'm gonna keep looking. Something weird going on with Ruger revolvers lately, prices are up and stock is low. I was gonna buy a toklat, but my usual dealers are out and prices have jumped since last i checked. Regular redhawks are also nearly SRH prices.
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