I recently received a free magazine sample about CCW. You had an article in it. I wonder as to your experiences carrying and training. What classes have you taken and to you shoot competitions? Does this help you in carrying? Did you have military or law experience and did this help?
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Well, I don't know about the rest, but Oleg carries regularly enough that I couldn't tell that he was carrying...
When it becomes a part of you...
When it becomes a part of you...
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I'm not Oleg, but I have about 110 hrs of formal firearms training since I started in 9/2001 (1/2 of it pistol, 1/2 carbine, shotgun or Colombian Judo). Competition is good as you can try to run your gear under moderate stress. I find competition is very helpful in marksmanship and gun handling but not so much for tactics. No LE or military background for me other than posing at an open house with an MP5, body armor and ballistic shield 
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I received a copy today too. Pretty cool to grab the mail and get a magazine with an armed Runt on the cover.
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I wonder what kind of looks I'd get if I walked up to the checkout counter at Barnes & Noble with one of those 
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I think you will find out what "works" and what doesn't as far as gear..
I had a "soft" holster, which was very comfortable, but I couldn't reholster without taking my eyes off the target. So right after training, Kydex holsters...
Also, I had thigh pouches for my M1A, and I found them to be fairly useful, but if they weren't tight enough, the mag would fall out while running, so the elastic ones didn't do it; the velcro did though.
Little things that become big things in serious situations. Also, I was very happy to buy a DAO pistol, as I tried my friends 1911 and couldn't work the safety in a panic. Nor could I work the Sigs (I'm left handed) under stress... In fact, I found out I couldn't work any of the DA/SA's under stress.... (probably can with proper training) but not something I preferred. Having two types of pull feel is not that great if you aren't use to it.
Oleg carries sometimes a Glock, but I think his regular carry is a Kahr 9 in Polymer..
Skunk..
What would be cool is if you bought the magazine, and the checkout clerk goes "Cool, Runt's on the cover this month!"
I had a "soft" holster, which was very comfortable, but I couldn't reholster without taking my eyes off the target. So right after training, Kydex holsters...
Also, I had thigh pouches for my M1A, and I found them to be fairly useful, but if they weren't tight enough, the mag would fall out while running, so the elastic ones didn't do it; the velcro did though.
Little things that become big things in serious situations. Also, I was very happy to buy a DAO pistol, as I tried my friends 1911 and couldn't work the safety in a panic. Nor could I work the Sigs (I'm left handed) under stress... In fact, I found out I couldn't work any of the DA/SA's under stress.... (probably can with proper training) but not something I preferred. Having two types of pull feel is not that great if you aren't use to it.
Oleg carries sometimes a Glock, but I think his regular carry is a Kahr 9 in Polymer..
Skunk..
What would be cool is if you bought the magazine, and the checkout clerk goes "Cool, Runt's on the cover this month!"
Oleg Volk
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Regular carry is a Glock (17,19,29). Sometimes I carry a Kahr P9. Less frequently, G30 or G26. They all operate much the same.
Competitions are great for testing your gear. Not so great for developing tactics.
Courses I've taken are few. I can recommend http://www.defensive-edge.net in Minnesota. Their training helped with overall tactics and accuracy.
Getting used to carrying certainly helped. Especially doing it legally, so mistakes don't become expensive. I am less of an expert on what works than a heckler on what doesn't.
Competitions are great for testing your gear. Not so great for developing tactics.
Courses I've taken are few. I can recommend http://www.defensive-edge.net in Minnesota. Their training helped with overall tactics and accuracy.
Getting used to carrying certainly helped. Especially doing it legally, so mistakes don't become expensive. I am less of an expert on what works than a heckler on what doesn't.
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ok, I'll bite...
How does one join the United States Concealed Carry Association? Never even heard of 'em...
How does one join the United States Concealed Carry Association? Never even heard of 'em...
Concealed Carry Magazine's website
I'd like to subscribe, but $40 for six issues is kinda high, isn't it...?
I'd like to subscribe, but $40 for six issues is kinda high, isn't it...?
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ceetee, I agree. I enjoyed the magazine, but nearly $7 an issue for a home-delivered subscription is a bit much. If they dropped it to say, $25 or so, I'd subscribe in a heart-beat. $15 isn't all that much, but it's a pound or powder, or a thousand primers, or 100 30cal Hornady 165gr Interlocks, or couple of cases of cheap diet soda to use for reactive targets or 4% of that Springfield 1911 Milspec I've been eyeing...
Milton, other than the required class for receiving my CCW here in SC or the books I've read, I've received no real training. There are a couple of local outfits here that offer personal tactical training for CCW holders and I intend to take a class sometime. Hey, there's yet another thing I could put that extra $15 toward...
Milton, other than the required class for receiving my CCW here in SC or the books I've read, I've received no real training. There are a couple of local outfits here that offer personal tactical training for CCW holders and I intend to take a class sometime. Hey, there's yet another thing I could put that extra $15 toward...
In a real defensive shooting situation, why would you reholster if there is still a "target" (bad guy) to be concerned with?
This smacks a bit of misplaced tacticality. If I just had to shoot, or even present my firearm, it's not going back in the holster until the threat is no longer a threat.
Now, if this is just the behavior you want to use at the range, that's fine, but I don't think it's a habit you need to develop for the real world.
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Actually, that's with ANY reholstering for any reason. If I think the danger is over, I'll reholster, but I'd like to still sweep scan while doing so. Also, reholstering to get "on the run" happens often and I've noticed looking down makes tripping over yourself almost inevitable (or maybe it's just me). I find it very useful for the range, but just as useful in the real world.
I also like the audible response of kydex.
I slap the gun against it (click). I insert until I hear a second click. The audible feedback of reholstering on kydex is reassuring.
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With regard to Concealed Carry Magazine, the subscription price is high right now. They are trying to get this new grassroots, non-politically correct magazine off the ground.
I think it is worth the extra premium to help support an effort like this that will not be driven by giant media conglomerates and the almighty advertising dollar of the gun industry.
Check them out at: www.concealedcarrymag.com
They will send you a free introductory copy so you can see what it is all about.
I think it is worth the extra premium to help support an effort like this that will not be driven by giant media conglomerates and the almighty advertising dollar of the gun industry.
Check them out at: www.concealedcarrymag.com
They will send you a free introductory copy so you can see what it is all about.
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If they want to get it off the ground they should leave the price low enough to get people to subscribe but just high enough to cover their costs.
Charging that much for an unproven magazine is not the best Idea. Do these people have a track record and will they be around long enough to print all the issues you have subscribed to?
DM
Charging that much for an unproven magazine is not the best Idea. Do these people have a track record and will they be around long enough to print all the issues you have subscribed to?
DM
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DDGator,
Why do you think they don't have advertising? There is a link on their web site for ad rates.
For the rates they are asking they will need to show a substantial readership. They should be charging just enough to off set the costs associated with maintaining a subscriber list and mailing the magazine to them.
That's how to boost your circulation, not make it so expensive that people will think twice about subscribing. Usually, if I don't bite the first time, I won't bite at all. I am sure others are the same.
DM
edited to remove the url that didn't work.
Why do you think they don't have advertising? There is a link on their web site for ad rates.
For the rates they are asking they will need to show a substantial readership. They should be charging just enough to off set the costs associated with maintaining a subscriber list and mailing the magazine to them.
That's how to boost your circulation, not make it so expensive that people will think twice about subscribing. Usually, if I don't bite the first time, I won't bite at all. I am sure others are the same.
DM
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Double M,
I don't have any connection to the management or ownership, I am just giving you my impressions. I talked with Tim, the publisher, a bit. He certainly is not making any money. There are a lot of start-up costs, plus they are giving out a lot of free issues to get some circulation going. I certainly don't think they are charging more than they need to cover their costs -- as you imply -- but that they are trying to coup their losses as much as possible so there is a magazine to build on.
Starting something like this without major backing is a labor of love and VERY expensive.
I sincerely hope they do well.
I don't have any connection to the management or ownership, I am just giving you my impressions. I talked with Tim, the publisher, a bit. He certainly is not making any money. There are a lot of start-up costs, plus they are giving out a lot of free issues to get some circulation going. I certainly don't think they are charging more than they need to cover their costs -- as you imply -- but that they are trying to coup their losses as much as possible so there is a magazine to build on.
Starting something like this without major backing is a labor of love and VERY expensive.
I sincerely hope they do well.
P95Carry
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I have seen several special interest come and go in my lifetime.
Most were good enough to hang around but couldn't absorb the losses any new company incurs.
Most start out with a single copy and subscription price that is only slightly above their contemporaries. Often times htey jusy can't hang in long enough to make a go of it. It's not unusual for them to go belly up before your subscription runs out.
Concealed carry looks like a labor of love. And you can run on love for a long long time. But even love can only operate at a financial loss for so long.
Sure CC magazine is a bit pricey, but I can see a niche for it to fill. I'd rather pay a little too much right now in order for them to be able to remain in business.
I feel the secret to their success will be their ability to get distribution. If only they could get into the major stores, Wal-Mart, Top Foods, Albertsons, Kroger, etc Only then they will be seen by enough impulse buyers to become profitable.
I wish Tim and his endeavor continued success. i know I will be subscribing.
I feel my $40 will be better spent on this magazine than any political action fund.
Most were good enough to hang around but couldn't absorb the losses any new company incurs.
Most start out with a single copy and subscription price that is only slightly above their contemporaries. Often times htey jusy can't hang in long enough to make a go of it. It's not unusual for them to go belly up before your subscription runs out.
Concealed carry looks like a labor of love. And you can run on love for a long long time. But even love can only operate at a financial loss for so long.
Sure CC magazine is a bit pricey, but I can see a niche for it to fill. I'd rather pay a little too much right now in order for them to be able to remain in business.
I feel the secret to their success will be their ability to get distribution. If only they could get into the major stores, Wal-Mart, Top Foods, Albertsons, Kroger, etc Only then they will be seen by enough impulse buyers to become profitable.
I wish Tim and his endeavor continued success. i know I will be subscribing.
I feel my $40 will be better spent on this magazine than any political action fund.
P95Carry
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Bear - My sentiments dude .. I do feel this is one we should support. I threw him a 2yrs sub' ... if after that it goes belly up then I doubt there's much we can do.
If enough people can help at this stage it does stand a chance ...... and I agree re distribution .. if only it can get a high enough profile .. bring CCW to the fore ... it would be of immense value to our cause.
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