What is the whooping cough? Do people get that from the Whooping Crane? You know, some kind of bird thing?
Death Toll in the Old West from firearms vs the unarmed East
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Uh, no, not a bird thing. Whooping cough is the common name given to Pertussis (Bordetella pertussis).
Pertussis is a highly contagious bacterial disease that causes uncontrollable, violent coughing. The coughing can make it hard to breathe. A deep "whooping" sound is often heard when the patient tries to take a breath. It is fairly uncommon in the US now because of widespread immunizations against it, but outbreaks still occur but are generally localized (such as the Sarasota County, FL, Buchanan County, IA, outbreaks in 2009, and several across the US in 2004).
About 90% of the outbreaks that occur are in 3rd world countries these days. However, before immunizations, large outbreaks occurred in the US as they continue to occur elsewhere. Even with immunizations outbreaks still occur. Major outbreaks occurred in Canada in 1991, Germany, Finland, and France in 1997, and in Australia in 2009.
Pertussis is a highly contagious bacterial disease that causes uncontrollable, violent coughing. The coughing can make it hard to breathe. A deep "whooping" sound is often heard when the patient tries to take a breath. It is fairly uncommon in the US now because of widespread immunizations against it, but outbreaks still occur but are generally localized (such as the Sarasota County, FL, Buchanan County, IA, outbreaks in 2009, and several across the US in 2004).
About 90% of the outbreaks that occur are in 3rd world countries these days. However, before immunizations, large outbreaks occurred in the US as they continue to occur elsewhere. Even with immunizations outbreaks still occur. Major outbreaks occurred in Canada in 1991, Germany, Finland, and France in 1997, and in Australia in 2009.
At that time, the East was heavily armed. Almost everyone who could afford a pistol carried one, and millions of pocket pistols were sold. There were few gun control laws, either on purchase or carry until New York passed the Sullivan Law in 1911.
That law was not intended to stop crime, a pastime from which the infamous Tammany Hall skimmed the profits. It arose from a dispute over Democratic ballot box stuffing; when a Republican poll watcher objected, he was attacked and pulled a pistol, shooting one of Big Tim Sullivan's heroic thugs. Deciding such evil things should not happen in the town he owned, he secured the passage of a law that would keep all but Democratic party contributors and Tammany approved criminals from owning and carrying guns.
The law is still working to make NY safe for criminals today, except that Sullivan has been replaced by Bloomberg.
Jim
That law was not intended to stop crime, a pastime from which the infamous Tammany Hall skimmed the profits. It arose from a dispute over Democratic ballot box stuffing; when a Republican poll watcher objected, he was attacked and pulled a pistol, shooting one of Big Tim Sullivan's heroic thugs. Deciding such evil things should not happen in the town he owned, he secured the passage of a law that would keep all but Democratic party contributors and Tammany approved criminals from owning and carrying guns.
The law is still working to make NY safe for criminals today, except that Sullivan has been replaced by Bloomberg.
Jim
Hello friends and neighbors // Feuds like the Legendary Hatfield & Mccoy could last for generations and were plentiful.
Double Naught Spy, thank you. I didn't remember ever hearing of it right offhand and I was thinking it might be associated with some type of bird flu or something...
BHPFAN, yes I know what the 'theria is. I know of a little boy who died of it. He liked 9 days being three years old..
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Shooting your opposition in the back is the smart way to do it as it reduces the chance of changing a shooting into a gunfight. You either have a chance to get away or a chance to finish off your opposition before s/he can turn, identify the threat, and return fire. People often confuse cowardice with being tactically smart.
I'm thinking the statistics for people killed by firearms in the east before gun control might have been the reason for the legislation in the first place. It just didn't bring them down.
Which goes to show that gun control doesn't (and wont) work once a gun culture has been established.
There's no right or wrong about gun control. There is the right place for gun control, or not. It works in Europe (where burglars and muggers carrying hand guns is extreamly rare) but I can't see it working in the US.
Which goes to show that gun control doesn't (and wont) work once a gun culture has been established.
There's no right or wrong about gun control. There is the right place for gun control, or not. It works in Europe (where burglars and muggers carrying hand guns is extreamly rare) but I can't see it working in the US.
Much has been written about the "Romantic West".
Times and crimes weren't much different then than they are today.
Crime rates were proportionate to the population and social base an area was supporting.
More unemployment coupled with a large population= higher crime rates.
You were far more likely to become a victim of violent crime in New York City or Boston than you were in Dimpledick Montana.
There were many cities on the east coast that were well known for being meccas of crime during the time of the western expansion.
It was this lawlessness that prompted the likes of Theodore Roosevelt recommending ALL Police Officers go armed with at least a .32 caliber revolver to tackle the increasing crime rates.
My state, Illinois, was known during the great western expansion as a place where several groups of roving highwayman bandits roamed the countryside attacking stage and mail coaches that operated in areas where there was no direct rail deliveries.
There were many groups that preyed on minorities and people whose religeous views differed from their own.
It wasn't any different then than now.
It was just more "Romantic."
Times and crimes weren't much different then than they are today.
Crime rates were proportionate to the population and social base an area was supporting.
More unemployment coupled with a large population= higher crime rates.
You were far more likely to become a victim of violent crime in New York City or Boston than you were in Dimpledick Montana.
There were many cities on the east coast that were well known for being meccas of crime during the time of the western expansion.
It was this lawlessness that prompted the likes of Theodore Roosevelt recommending ALL Police Officers go armed with at least a .32 caliber revolver to tackle the increasing crime rates.
My state, Illinois, was known during the great western expansion as a place where several groups of roving highwayman bandits roamed the countryside attacking stage and mail coaches that operated in areas where there was no direct rail deliveries.
There were many groups that preyed on minorities and people whose religeous views differed from their own.
It wasn't any different then than now.
It was just more "Romantic."
Don't forget that an awful lot of gun control laws were racist in nature. Many of them were put into place in order to prevent blacks from arming themselves, not to address crime. As others have said here, the corrupt politicians benefited too much from crime to put a stop to it. The more things change, the more they stay the same...
a large number of people went forth and died in the middle of the plains along the great wagon train routes. very little way to positively count the number that died, and even less way to figure out the cause of death.
And its hard to say if someone died from a bullet or an infection. Even today people survive shotgun slugs to the head and die a week later from infection caused by hospital bugs not related to the bullet. Same thing happened then.
And its hard to say if someone died from a bullet or an infection. Even today people survive shotgun slugs to the head and die a week later from infection caused by hospital bugs not related to the bullet. Same thing happened then.
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