GoRon
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in 20 years China will be the worlds top leader and America will be reduced to a 2nd world nation.
Maybe 75yrs not 20.
It is a HUGE maybe. It aint over till it's over.
in 20 years China will be the worlds top leader and America will be reduced to a 2nd world nation.
Sam said:Exceptionalism, don't know about that. Best game in town though, by a real long shot. Very far from perfect and as many have pointed out, probably backsliding. The difference is that we can recover the lost ground and advance beyond it.
Mr. Wllm.Legrand, other than opening the figurative pie hole, what are you doing to make it better? Many BM&G few do anything about it.
Sam
HankB said:Please name the country (or countries) which you believe are greater - and why.
Economic freedom? Many. Heck, it's easier to open and operate a business in Hong Kong than here. Far less regulation.
Lone_Gunman said:Come on, just name a couple.
And give some examples of how they have more economic freedom, of course.
Absolutely correct your referencing the Declaration of Independence and those PRIMARY PRINCIPALS which the Founders created the first American Nation (Articles of Confederation vs. the second Constitution, a near revolution in substance).
longeyes said:Your great wisdom doesn't extend to knowing the difference between principals and principles, apparently.
longeyes said:New Zealand, Singapore, Switzerland, Hong Kong as exemplars of greater freedom?
Hong Kong's part of the People's Republic of China. Switzerland exists by virtue of laundering money and letting other people fight their battles for them. Singapore is an authoritarian corporation-state that seems obsessed with corporal punishment. New Zealand has two industries, sheepherding and Peter Jackson, and, last time I checked, was quasi-socialistic.
Khornet said:Your beloved Hong Kong exists at the pleasure of the People's Republic of China, does it not? It's a bird in a cage, nothing more.
longeyes said:I think just about everyone who posts on the THR board recognizes that America of 2005 is not the America of 1885 or 1955. We know that our freedoms have been steadily encroached upon. We know that our futures are being mortgaged away. The question is, as someone else once asked: What is to be done?
If we're "no longer" the greatest country in the world, clearly the writer believes he knows of OTHER countries which are greater.Wllm. Legrand said:This ONCE WAS the greatest country in the world, as perhaps was probably the most free, but no longer
Which drew the response in this thread's Post #54, in which Wllm. Legrand askedHankB said:Please name the country (or countries) which you believe are greater - and why.
OK, getting past the implied insult, note that I didn't ask about where we were headed or if we were better off "x" years ago or if I thought everything was just peachy today, I wanted to know which countries Wllm. Legrand believed were greater than the USA.Wllm. Legrand said:I mentioned the analogy about the U.S. being the healthiest patient in the cancer ward. DID YOU READ IT? DID YOU GET IT? I think not.
We are in fact losing liberty, i.e., the legal authorization to act in accordance with our rights, but, as RealGun implied, we have a lot more freedom, i.e., the ability to do and be what we would like, including in the realm of immorality, without risk of punishment or even public scorn, than ever before in American history, and we are, as RealGun implied, using those freedoms to the destruction of liberty.RealGun said:We aren't losing freedoms as much as we are using "freedom" against our best interests.
The Real Hawkeye said:We are in fact losing liberty, i.e., the legal authorization to act in accordance with our rights, but, as RealGun implied, we have a lot more freedom, i.e., the ability to do and be what we would like, including in the realm of immorality, without risk of punishment or even public scorn, than ever before in American history, and we are, as RealGun implied, using those freedoms to the destruction of liberty.
BigG said:Khornet asked the question and HankB covered the territory nicely.
All you naysayers. I haven't heard about any of you leaving. If this place is so bad, why not?
Grow up.
So, tell us, Longeyes, did you vote for the President and Congressbeings who ushered in the single largest increase in Federal welfare-type largess in living memory, the Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit?longeyes said:Okay. How about a War of Expulsion to throw out all the dead-beats? You up for that?
Or maybe you have a better plan for stopping the insanity?
As for your private "war of expulsion," how do you propose to identify "deadbeats? By skin color, perhaps? By accent? By your own opinion? How will you be sure -- and what will you say to the survivors after you make an error?
longeyes said:We have allowed ourselves to be incrementally enslaved by encroaching government and then by escapist consumerism. America was always about self-reliance, control of one's own destiny, and the ability to say NO. That's been lost as too many Americans just say yes, yes, and yes, and exchange America's precious heritage of liberty for a materialistic toyland. You can't divorce economics from morality, try as we might.