gt3944
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Guys tell me what you think...I'm thinking about trading in my Ruger P95 for a Taurus Millenium .45...what do you guys think, would it be a good trade or not??
Decisions,Decisions,Decisions!!! (Trade Ruger for Taurus?)
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WillBrayJr
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If it's a Millenium Pro maybe. Taurus polymer frame autos aren't the best. I seen alot of them brought back to the shop for a full refund. Keep the Ruger P95 or trade it in for a Ruger KP345.
gt3944
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yeah, its the millenium pro...
gt3944
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WillBrayJr
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You should be fine then. Taurus is known putting products out on the market before being thoroughly tested. I haven't seen any of the Pros in person. The kinks seem to be worked out because people that own the Pro versions seem happy with them
Rock45
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That all depends...is the Ruger your only handgun?
My rule is:
Never Trade in a gun except for a direct replacement/upgrade.
I.E. You could trade the P95 on a nicer, more refined 9mm semi-auto pistol
You must ALWAYS TRADE UP! The P95 is still and will always be a very good 9mm service pistol.
Just my $.02 worth...
Bryan
My rule is:
Never Trade in a gun except for a direct replacement/upgrade.
I.E. You could trade the P95 on a nicer, more refined 9mm semi-auto pistol
You must ALWAYS TRADE UP! The P95 is still and will always be a very good 9mm service pistol.
Just my $.02 worth...
Bryan
wally
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I'm betting you'll regret trading the Ruger in a rather short time. I'd say save a little longer and keep the Ruger then buy the Millenium Pro later. I'm sure in the long run you'll like having both a full size and a sub-compact handgun.
--wally.
--wally.
gt3944
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the only reason I was considering it was because the taurus is an easier to carry and conceale...the p95 has a larger frame, and ofcourse the taurus is a 45..
gt3944
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Well if your P95 is anything like the ones I've fired trading it in for a rock would be a good deal.
I've shot two of them and neither of them was accurate enough to hit a milk jug at much further than 10' or so. And it wasn't just me. The owners couldn't hit anything with them either. Add to that, that I've got two Vaqueros that are both a POS and my opinion of Ruger isn't too high.
I've shot two of them and neither of them was accurate enough to hit a milk jug at much further than 10' or so. And it wasn't just me. The owners couldn't hit anything with them either. Add to that, that I've got two Vaqueros that are both a POS and my opinion of Ruger isn't too high.
bogie
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IMHO, the most important thing with a handgun is how it fits you. Does it point naturally for you? A 1911 with a curved backstrap points naturally for me. Sights? What sights? Don't even have to think. A Smith J frame, however, shoots about 4' low at 7 yards, from my normal instinctive hold. Hence, I'm not gonna be carrying a J frame.
Now, I'm not an advocate of point shooting as an end all, but if your firearm "fits" you naturally, everything else will fall into place that much easier.
Now, I'm not an advocate of point shooting as an end all, but if your firearm "fits" you naturally, everything else will fall into place that much easier.
utahminirevolver
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I know I'll likely get flamed, but IMO 'buy American'.
Taurus is Brazilian.
Our balance of trade is already bad. So keep your Ruger or trade it, but buy something from the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Taurus is Brazilian.
Our balance of trade is already bad. So keep your Ruger or trade it, but buy something from the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Weird...My brother's doing the same thing-same EXACT thing. He saw my PT-145 and is going to sell his P95 to a coworker. I told him it's DAO and he doesn't care. He's not going hunting with it or anything, just for carry.gt3944 said:Guys tell me what you think...I'm thinking about trading in my Ruger P95 for a Taurus Millenium .45...what do you guys think, would it be a good trade or not??
gt3944-Go for it!! I love my PT-145!
birddog
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1. I have Rugers, and love them. Don't trade!
2. I have Taurus pistols, and love them. Trade!
2. I have Taurus pistols, and love them. Trade!
Longbow
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A big.....
NO!
Buy a good IWB holster, good ammo and hicap mags instead.
A .45 ACP ballistics in short barrel isn't that great, so I've been told. There's plenty of good 9mm ammo out there.
gt3944 said:Guys tell me what you think...I'm thinking about trading in my Ruger P95 for a Taurus Millenium .45...what do you guys think, would it be a good trade or not??
NO!
Buy a good IWB holster, good ammo and hicap mags instead.
A .45 ACP ballistics in short barrel isn't that great, so I've been told. There's plenty of good 9mm ammo out there.
MCgunner
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I've never owned a Taurus auto, just a couple of revolvers. I have owned a P95 and currently own a P90 and a P85 which were/are all fantastic shooters. My P90 I'll match for accuracy with any out of the box .45 out there. It's awesome accurate, target quality almost! And, it always works, never burps. I'll let 1911Tuner keep all his 1911s. 
So, I'd say keep the Ruger or get a P345. Tuner and the other 1911 guys are going to tell you to donate it to Good Will and buy a 1911. Just do what you think is right and live with the decision after the fact. Nobody here will have the right answer. I've never fired the Taurus, just that I KNOW the Rugers are quality firearms. So, if it was ME thinking about that decision, I'd hesitate. I'd likely keep the P95.
So, I'd say keep the Ruger or get a P345. Tuner and the other 1911 guys are going to tell you to donate it to Good Will and buy a 1911. Just do what you think is right and live with the decision after the fact.
Nobody here will have the right answer. I've never fired the Taurus, just that I KNOW the Rugers are quality firearms. So, if it was ME thinking about that decision, I'd hesitate. I'd likely keep the P95.Jkwas
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We have the Ruger P89 and the Millenium pro pt111
I'd hate to have to give up either of them, but the mil-pro is more practical, and it shoots real nice. The DAO trigger is a striker type, so you can hit the same primer twice if you have to. The trigger is smooth, crisp, and predictable. It's more accurate than my snubnose, but not as accurate as the P89. But it's a lot easier to carry. Like I said, I don't want to part with either, but used p95's and p89's are plentiful. You can always get another later if you really wanted one. Pt145's are pretty reasonable. You should be able to get one for around $300 or so out the door. Check budsgunshop.com. I got my 111 for $267 plus around $50 shipping and transfer. Came with a hard case, barrel brush and two 12rnd mags. Stainless slide.
Good Luck,
I'd hate to have to give up either of them, but the mil-pro is more practical, and it shoots real nice. The DAO trigger is a striker type, so you can hit the same primer twice if you have to. The trigger is smooth, crisp, and predictable. It's more accurate than my snubnose, but not as accurate as the P89. But it's a lot easier to carry. Like I said, I don't want to part with either, but used p95's and p89's are plentiful. You can always get another later if you really wanted one. Pt145's are pretty reasonable. You should be able to get one for around $300 or so out the door. Check budsgunshop.com. I got my 111 for $267 plus around $50 shipping and transfer. Came with a hard case, barrel brush and two 12rnd mags. Stainless slide.
Good Luck,
CAnnoneer
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Ruger >> Taurus
Buy American.
Buy American.
chaim
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It depends...
Do you have another full-sized auto? Do you have another concealable auto? Do you have a revolver for either of these roles (i.e. it wouldn't be as bad to be without one if you have a revolver that fits that role)? Do you have another 9mm?
Ammo considerations (in case you don't have another 9mm):
-Few options allow cheaper practice than 9mm
-9mm does have some very good defensive options
-.45ACP is more powerful in general and so you don't have to be as careful in your ammo selection
-.45ACP in a short barrel isn't at its best- if you get the PT145 M. Pro, stick with the 185gr loads and stay away from the heavy 230gr for defense (230gr JHPs probably won't expand). So you lose some of the prior advantage (i.e. in a short barrel .45 you now have the need to be more careful with your ammo selection, just like with 9mm).
If you don't have another full-sized auto I fully agree with the suggestion to wait and save until you can buy the PT145 M. Pro outright. They aren't that expensive. It may take a few months, or longer depending upon your income, but try to make due with the P95 (assuming you have no other carriable guns) in the meantime. The larger gun, especially in the inexpensive and light recoiling 9mm, is something that you will appreciate at the range.
How well do you like the P95? Trust me, you don't want to trade a gun you like for something else. If you don't like it that much (or are lukewarm) go ahead and trade, if you like it then make due until you can afford the PT145 outright.
Now if you don't have another concealable pistol and you have trouble concealing your P95 AND if you live in a CCW state and you have your CCW license, then it may be more valuable to trade now regardless of your above answers. However, even so, if you have some money you can afford to spend you may be better off buying something cheaper (a Kel tec P11, P3AT or P32, a used Taurus 85 revolver, a used S&W J-frame, etc) so you have something concealable now, keep your P95, and save for the PT145 that you want.
Do you have another full-sized auto? Do you have another concealable auto? Do you have a revolver for either of these roles (i.e. it wouldn't be as bad to be without one if you have a revolver that fits that role)? Do you have another 9mm?
Ammo considerations (in case you don't have another 9mm):
-Few options allow cheaper practice than 9mm
-9mm does have some very good defensive options
-.45ACP is more powerful in general and so you don't have to be as careful in your ammo selection
-.45ACP in a short barrel isn't at its best- if you get the PT145 M. Pro, stick with the 185gr loads and stay away from the heavy 230gr for defense (230gr JHPs probably won't expand). So you lose some of the prior advantage (i.e. in a short barrel .45 you now have the need to be more careful with your ammo selection, just like with 9mm).
If you don't have another full-sized auto I fully agree with the suggestion to wait and save until you can buy the PT145 M. Pro outright. They aren't that expensive. It may take a few months, or longer depending upon your income, but try to make due with the P95 (assuming you have no other carriable guns) in the meantime. The larger gun, especially in the inexpensive and light recoiling 9mm, is something that you will appreciate at the range.
How well do you like the P95? Trust me, you don't want to trade a gun you like for something else. If you don't like it that much (or are lukewarm) go ahead and trade, if you like it then make due until you can afford the PT145 outright.
Now if you don't have another concealable pistol and you have trouble concealing your P95 AND if you live in a CCW state and you have your CCW license, then it may be more valuable to trade now regardless of your above answers. However, even so, if you have some money you can afford to spend you may be better off buying something cheaper (a Kel tec P11, P3AT or P32, a used Taurus 85 revolver, a used S&W J-frame, etc) so you have something concealable now, keep your P95, and save for the PT145 that you want.
gt3944
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well boys, I went ahead and sold my ruger and bought a Taurus PT145 today.. Thanks for all youlls advice, and I hope I made the right decision..
gt,
I hope you like yours as much as I like mine. I have over 3000 rounds through it without even a hiccup. These are Federal 230gr. Hydrashoks.
Accuracy is great as well. With the exception of my Wilson Combat $2000.00 guns, this is the only gun I have owned, that shot to point of aim, at 20 yards, out of the box......
My trigger started off a little rough but is buttery smooth now. It is easy to handle under fast firing drills and double tapps are almost effortless. I drop it in my front pocket of just about any pants or shorts I am wearing and go!!!
I hope you like yours as much as I like mine. I have over 3000 rounds through it without even a hiccup. These are Federal 230gr. Hydrashoks.
Accuracy is great as well. With the exception of my Wilson Combat $2000.00 guns, this is the only gun I have owned, that shot to point of aim, at 20 yards, out of the box......
My trigger started off a little rough but is buttery smooth now. It is easy to handle under fast firing drills and double tapps are almost effortless. I drop it in my front pocket of just about any pants or shorts I am wearing and go!!!
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