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Readying another thread today gave me an idea. What if you were being robbed and you couldn't get to you weapon, or fighting them off wasn't a good option. What can you do?

Im thinking about making a decoy wallet with a bogus ID and a visa gift card (empty) and throwing that to my robber to satisfy him so I can make a run.

Hopefully, the decoy will satisfy them long enough to get to safety and they wont notice its bogus till we have both parted ways.

Im all for people using deadly force in such situations but its not always the best choice
 
well, I know its not perfect. Its just an idea cause from experience and some articles I've read fighting is always the best option. Many times fighting is the best, but if you are out numbered or if they have your kid "appeasing" them may work
 
I'm with Colt - I have enough to lug around with me daily, without an extra fake wallet added in.

And as Lee pointed out, it doesn't always work the way it's supposed to. What happens if you toss it, and the robber demands that you pick it up and hand it to him or he shoots/stabs you? What happens if in the excitement you forget which wallet is which and toss him your real wallet with ID, credit cards, etc?

As for "appeasing" them - what if you toss the wallet, and they aren't convinced it's the real one? Are you willing to risk getting shot or stabbed or having your kid shot or stabbed over an attempt at deception?

An interesting idea, but not something I'm looking to implement any time soon.
 
For decade now various self-defense personalities have written about having a weighted folding bill or decoy wallet as a throwdown to give the criminal something to go for. The idea has been lauded by a lot of trainers and others, and it makes a kind of sense, to a certain kind of criminal.

However, in discussions with others who have studied criminal behavior closely, I've been cautioned that the results achieved may not be optimal. Something about a 'VCA' being in control of the situation and taking very unkindly to unexpected acts that don't follow his commands. This is a person, who is used to demanding and receiving compliance through physical coercion. He isn't a golden retriever who is going to turn and chase a thrown or dropped object. Rather, the dissmissiveness of that act -- which disrespects his authority/control -- may cause him to act with immediate violence.

I've discussed this with people who do violent interaction simulations on a regular basis. I've been told that -- even as role players acting out an scene -- a person can actually see red, become enraged, at the 'victim' who pulls a stunt like this. "Oh YEAH? I didn't say THROW THAT at ME. GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND PICK IT UP AND I'LL DECIDE IF I SHOULD CAP YOUR FOOL <BUTT>!"

But, there are probably situations where it might make sense. Choose wisely.
 
when traveling i put all the money except for the daily spending part
into my boots, or money belt. ID and credicard go into pocket.

Wallet only contains like 80$ plus non important cards.

Health can´t be replaced. If you cannot win a confrontation
at least try to not lose. Most robbers are not total psychos.
They wanna rob and run.
 
Not gonna carry around another wallet. My real wallet can be the decoy while I draw my weapon.
 
I keep a "drop wallet" in my vehicle within easy reach. I also keep a S&W 908. Anyone getting the drop wallet may get the contents of the 908 as a bonus.
 
CCW or badge ?

I carry a CCW and a badge [ retiree from police dept ].

So a second wallet has been my choice since I carried a badge.

I was taught that in the old day [ I am old ] a stick up crew would hold a restaurant or bar at gunpoint and take ALL wallets and check to see if any had a badge etc in them.

So its still a habit of mine to EDC 2 wallets,my carry permit and my badge are in one that is kept low profile.

And yes to a throw down cash dump,then the real money [ I tend to carry a 'few' hundred ] are not lost .

I am figuring that if they find the second wallet,then they also "found" the gun.

AND by that time I have used it.
 
I think it is a bad idea. They can have my wallet and valuables; I could care less provided they leave me alone. If they attempt to harm me, it would be another story.
 
Pocket pistol in a wallet holster.

Credit cards can be cancelled, and ID replaced, so all that's really at stake here is cash. With the commonplace acceptance of credit cards, who has a need to carry an amount of cash worthing making this fuss over? Unless I'm specifically going somewhere to purchase something in cash, my wallet usually doesn't have enough cash to buy another wallet.

Carrying a decoy wallet isn't a strategy for surviving an encounter. It's a cost cutting measure designed to reduce the cost of an encounter. Not worth it, in my opinion.

If you think you're gonna get fancy, and drop the wallet to give yourself a chance to draw, just use the real wallet. If your draw is successful, it won't matter which wallet you dropped. Likewise, if your draw is unsuccessful, it probably also doesn't matter now.
 
When on a 'road trip' even if its via an airplane or boat, I carry the Lincolns and expired credit cards in one pocket, the Franklins and USAA credit card in another.

Since we had a street punk tried to run iff with her purse in NOLA, my bride carries some Identification and some cash on body.

As a visitor, you are pretty much an unarmed, confused, conspicious mark thats ripe for picking.


salty
 
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PcolaDawg said:
My decoy wallet has my S&W Bodyguard 380 in it. Prints just like a wallet, so nobody's the wiser.
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I think that's the way to go. Just make sure you don't give it to 'em, unless you really give it to 'em ;)
 
Yes, I have a semi-sorta-almost-nearly-but currently legal holster for the NAA .32. Its a dandy.

In my earlier post, I was thinking of places where concealed carry has to be replaced by mindset and prior planning.

My bad, I should have been more specific.

salty
 
My roommates' coworker was mugged outside of his house two days ago, they took all of his money, and cell phone. They shot him in the legs, for no reason afterwards. Best bet is situational awareness, and means of self-defense. (If evasion is out of the question)
 
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