Deer hunting on the move

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I see lots more deer while sitting quietly in a stand or ground blind than I do moving around and walking. I prefer tree stands for archery and ground blinds for guns. I usually read from a tablet in a ground blind to prevent boredom and fidgeting.
 
I am first and foremost a still hunter. Sitting in a stand just doesn't get my juices flowing like still hunting. I even still hunt with my bow. I enjoy my hunts even when I never take a shot just challenging myself to see how close I can get before they notice. Probably why I like old guns and open sights. Just adds to the experience. Good hunting.
 
I see lots more deer while sitting quietly in a stand or ground blind than I do moving around and walking. I prefer tree stands for archery and ground blinds for guns. I usually read from a tablet in a ground blind to prevent boredom and fidgeting.

This will prove just how much of an old fart I am, but I would not call sitting on my butt surfing the web, or playing a video game until I happened to look up and see something coming, hunting. I'm not sure what it is, but it is not at all like any experience I have ever had, that I thought could be called "hunting". But then again, maybe I'm just too old.
 
This will prove just how much of an old fart I am, but I would not call sitting on my butt surfing the web, or playing a video game until I happened to look up and see something coming, hunting. I'm not sure what it is, but it is not at all like any experience I have ever had, that I thought could be called "hunting". But then again, maybe I'm just too old.
I don't surf the net or play games- I read. The alternative is constantly staring out of the window at some trees. I buy my reading material electronically because it is cheaper and I don't end up with a bunch of books taking up space, also it makes less noise than paper turning pages. Would it be different if my books were paper? Would it make a difference based on what the reading material was? Would reading a "classic", or the bible, or something by Elmer Keith or Capstick in a bound book be more acceptable than a sci-fi novel or book about video gaming on a tablet? Southern dove hunters normally sit in a field in camo while listening to a portable radio to hear what their favorite football team is doing while they pass shoot doves.
 
I usually go for two long walks a day, with the rifle. Dual purpose, "hunting", and exercise. The exercise part of the "hunt" is very successful. And it's always great to take a walk, in the trees. I find, IME, when I'm really serious about getting some hunting done, I have far more success from a stand, letting game come to me. Approximately 95% of the game I have taken, is from a stand.
 
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I love my guns, BUT Nothing put the fire in the hunt like using a bow. This guy chased a doe past me at 0Dark:30 and thought he was a 4 point it was so dark. He came back at 8:10 and at 30 yards it was too thick. I buck grunted, he looked, and said no fights for me today and turned a away. I went "#@$%" and dial the grunt tube from B to D and long Maaaw doe grunt and he turned and came right to me. Quartering to shots the whole way and not a bow shot. Finally got right under the tree next to mine and making love with his preorbital glands on the Russian olive and I spined him. Not the largest buck but it was damn exciting shooting him!!

The picture was after I tried to pull the arrow but it wouldn't come. Using a HBX broadhead and it won't come out s the expandables are like barbs. Shot two with it last year and going to see how many deer I can kill with the same one. ;) When deer get close you can spook them and then the hunt is one when you start to loose deer from mistakes. It just raises the stakes in the game and makes it more exciting.

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Well done. Fine buck you got there
 
I don't surf the net or play games- I read. The alternative is constantly staring out of the window at some trees. I buy my reading material electronically because it is cheaper and I don't end up with a bunch of books taking up space, also it makes less noise than paper turning pages. Would it be different if my books were paper? Would it make a difference based on what the reading material was? Would reading a "classic", or the bible, or something by Elmer Keith or Capstick in a bound book be more acceptable than a sci-fi novel or book about video gaming on a tablet? Southern dove hunters normally sit in a field in camo while listening to a portable radio to hear what their favorite football team is doing while they pass shoot doves.

I’ve listened to many a Southern Miss and Ole Miss game on the radio doing exactly what you describe.

And in the case of Ole Miss, it’s usually listening in to hear them pull defeat from the jaws of victory!
 
It really depends on where you hunt. Stand or still, neither is right or wrong. Both are driven by the terrain and environment. In the hardwood forests back east, you are likely to see more deer from a stand than still hunting. In the wide open west where I hunt, still hunting is the way to go.

Perhaps a change in firearm or bow is needed. Maybe try a traditional muzzleloader. Not one of those 209 fired inline deals, but the real deal muzzle stuffer. Or archery... Just a thought.
 
Lots of great feedback, thanks!

Definitely going to continue the walking/stalking/still hunting bit. That did liven things up.

Good ideas on the bow/black powder hunting also. Muzzle loading has been on my mind. Took a nice deer in Virginia a few years with one. That was fun.

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I don't surf the net or play games- I read. The alternative is constantly staring out of the window at some trees. I buy my reading material electronically because it is cheaper and I don't end up with a bunch of books taking up space, also it makes less noise than paper turning pages. Would it be different if my books were paper? Would it make a difference based on what the reading material was? Would reading a "classic", or the bible, or something by Elmer Keith or Capstick in a bound book be more acceptable than a sci-fi novel or book about video gaming on a tablet? Southern dove hunters normally sit in a field in camo while listening to a portable radio to hear what their favorite football team is doing while they pass shoot doves.

I wouldn't call reading a book "hunting" either. But we obviously have very different views of what the word means. Killing stuff periodically while I listen to football is not what I like to do either. I like hunting as a physical, mental, and philosophical exercise. I know people who just drive around until they surprise something in the open and then jump out and try to shoot it. I don't think that fits my definition of hunting either. If I'm not concentrating on hunting, I don't say I was hunting. Killing things is not what defines an activity as "hunting". I have killed two deer in the last 50 years with a vehicle on a highway. In neither case did I suddenly decide that what I was doing was hunting.
 
^^^I would opine that there is zero reason to criticize any person for enjoying a hunt in the great outdoors in whatever style they choose, so long as it is legal and ethical....FL-NC's description indicates it meets both those conditions.

I've done it both ways, depending on the terrain, weather, sign, and my mood. Sitting in stand for eight hours in 10 degrees Fahrenheit isn't always the most enjoyable activity! My luck in seeing deer has leaned towards being stationary, though.
 
I can’t criticize FL-NC.

Dove season, it’s a bunch of friends scattered across a field. It’s fellowship, discussion, and radios to see if our Rebels will surprise us with a gridiron win.

Rabbit hunting is turning out the dogs, getting into position, and fellowship with your fellow hunters while on the move.

Deer hunting is less social for me, and I haven’t read books or listened to the radio primarily because I’m using my eyes and ears to look and listen. And as of late, that became more important as I mixed moving and scouting into the mix.

But I can see no fault if others like to do that. And being transparent, while I don’t do it for deer season, I do that while dove, rabbit, and fishing (especially fishing).
 
I must admit that I'm guilty of reading paperbacks on stand waiting for the twilight time. However, I have kicked myself several times for doing it when I saw a deer disappearing into brush that I hadn't seen in time because I had my nose in a WEB Griffin book. But that's my punishment for not being alert. No one should be upset that I'm not hunting the "right way". If that's not your bag, fine! I paid the price so shut up about it.
 
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Maybe there's folks out there who can sit all day, in the stand, just watching, endlessly. The way I look at it is thus: Yes, I may miss the occasional animal, but if you are there, in the stand, you look up from your diversion, every so often. Much like a game camera, catching a photo, you are taking in the shooting lanes, at your stand, several dozen times, during the outing. Most game makes more noise, than people let on, deer and other animals can be downright noisy, especially moving through brush. So you may miss a thing or two. But, if you had something better to do, you wouldn't be in the stand, would you?
 
^^^I would opine that there is zero reason to criticize any person for enjoying a hunt in the great outdoors in whatever style they choose, so long as it is legal and ethical....FL-NC's description indicates it meets both those conditions.


I have to agree.

In today's world of deer hunting, sometimes the only way you can be successful is to sit and wait. Bow hunters will tell you that. Bowhunting during the peak of the rut I sit all day. Best way to pass the time is with a book. Not only does it help pass the time, but it helps keep me still. Hard enough to sit still for 10 hours a day in a tree stand, without being completely bored. For many folks, during their deer gun season, their hunting land is a parcel of 40-80 acres or less. That takes about an hour to still hunt and then by the time you're done, you probably have driven most deer outta there, maybe even to the neighbors sitting on stand. sitting on stand all day may not be the most glamorous way to hunt, but it is productive. Pay big bucks to hunt a high fence area and see what happens when you leave the box blind to go wander on your own.

My still hunting consists of heavily wooded, large areas of public land interspersed with large swamps and clearcuts. Best and favorite times are in the rain or wind and late in the season when there are few other hunters in the woods. Do it on opening weekend when the woods is crowded and deer are already up on their feet and on the lookout and all you are doing is playing dog to those who sit. So, if I'm there on opening weekend I sit too. As for the Spot and Stalk idea, in the areas I hunt, 100 yards is about the farthest you can see in the areas that hold deer during daylight. If you spot one, you have already stalked close enough to shoot it. Try to get much closer and odds are it will be a tail you are shooting at. About half the bucks I've shot while still hunting have been jumped and shot at very close range as they tried to make their escape. The other half were either standing eating, bedded or just stood from their bed at a sound they could not identify and were standing to see. Some were shot while trying to sneak away from me or other hunters in the woods. Trailing behind other hunters trying to still hunt is a successful way to hunt too. Have shot a few deer that watched a hunter walked by and then they got up and headed directly in the direction the hunter had come.....straight to me.

At 67 years old, while I still love to still hunt, it's not as feasible as it used to be for me. Ain't the walkin' and stalkin' and ain't the shootin'. It's getting the dam thing out by myself when I'm a half mile from any road. Even when I was young it was a half day job many times. Now, if one of the boys isn't with me, I pretty much jump 'em and watch 'em go.
 
If one wants to practice still hunting go after squirrel. Its how I learned to stalk through the woods. Im 250 lbs and can still walk through the woods quietly. But in all fairness I practice everyday. Silently stalking through the house, yard, work, etc.. kids hate it cause they cant get away with much. Never know when the old man will round the corner.
 
I'm a meat hunter. I like the sniper style hunt but I don't stalk. I set up in a tight spot that I know the deer are going to travel. And wait until I can get them as close as I can. I can hit taking shots from 250 yds but I prefer the close shots of 30 yd or less. I think the stick & string is the most comfortable way to hunt but archery season is short. I took this doe in gun season in a full run from about 30 yds on public land, with a prefect double lung/heart shot.

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I personally dislike treestands to the point that, if it is the only method available, I don't hunt. I also am another one who gave up on centerfire rifles. I have nothing against the fellow who uses either or both, but it's no longer for me. I have been a still hunter exclusively for many years now, and my weapons have become progressively less effective as that time has passed. From centerfire rifles to traditional black powder to handguns and now to the longbow. My longbow - it's a 50# Hill, with feather fletched cedar arrows - is the most severe limitation yet. I won't take a shot past twenty yards, and prefer ten. Combined with being on foot, hunting has become a challenge to say the least. But I am taking less game and enjoying myself more than I ever have, so it is a good prescription for me - and a day afoot after rabbits or dove is almost pure delight, whereas killing a buck from a stand with a rifle really began to feel more like a chore than anything else.

There is a book written by a traditional bowhunter named Fred Asbell. It is called "Stalking & Stillhunting, the Ground Hunter's Bible" and is available from his website. It has more useful and real world advice for the stillhunter than anything else I have seen.
 
I personally dislike treestands to the point that, if it is the only method available, I don't hunt. I also am another one who gave up on centerfire rifles. I have nothing against the fellow who uses either or both, but it's no longer for me. I have been a still hunter exclusively for many years now, and my weapons have become progressively less effective as that time has passed. From centerfire rifles to traditional black powder to handguns and now to the longbow. My longbow - it's a 50# Hill, with feather fletched cedar arrows - is the most severe limitation yet. I won't take a shot past twenty yards, and prefer ten. Combined with being on foot, hunting has become a challenge to say the least. But I am taking less game and enjoying myself more than I ever have, so it is a good prescription for me - and a day afoot after rabbits or dove is almost pure delight, whereas killing a buck from a stand with a rifle really began to feel more like a chore than anything else.

There is a book written by a traditional bowhunter named Fred Asbell. It is called "Stalking & Stillhunting, the Ground Hunter's Bible" and is available from his website. It has more useful and real world advice for the stillhunter than anything else I have seen.

Thanks for the book recommendation. My attention seems to be pointed in stalking/still hunting direction. What little I did was pretty fun
 
I grew up bouncing deer, and still relish the opportunities to do it. In my younger years, stand hunting was reserved for opening day and early risers throughout the season. You usually sat until you got cold, then "walked around" in some nearby "public" land. Sometimes it actually was public or tax forfeit, sometimes it was unkempt brushland that nobody cared about. "Our" land was reserved for organized deer drives and morning sits. Before the age of 22 when the family camp kind of fell apart through the old guard getting too old, and some family inheritance disputes and resulting property liquidation, I shot very few deer from proper deer stands. The majority were killed about an even split between organized drives and walking around, more on the latter later. This was not trophy hunting, or even "good enough" buck hunting. This was meat in the freezer hunting with a relatively low deer population and generally poor visibility and highly pressured deer. If you saw a legal deer, the rifle best be on your shoulder with the safety off! I shot a lot of small bucks, does, small does, even a couple of respectable bucks. They all ate well. Every kill was challenging, unique and highly rewarding. Taking deer on their terms, either through skill of riflery on running, bounding, snap-shot animals on a drive, or outwitting, stalking, or blundering luck while walking around. Shooting spooked deer is a rush, and not an easy skill to develop. We spent a lot of time rolling a tire down the gravel pits hills and trying to perforate the 16" cardboard in the center with cheap surplus or the .22s.

"Walking around:" This in my world involves a mix of actual walking around, stump sitting, wind-driving, deliberate noise-making/quiet cycles, and the occasional Indian run. By far the best technique I've found is "hazing" deer. Using the wind and my scent (or another hunter on public land) along with some noisy walking to make the deer in a section of cover nervous, but not break and run. This is where the Indian run and an intimate knowledge of terrain and deer movement comes into play. After hazing a section of cover, the object is to Indian run...move quickly and with relative silence using a trail or open woods with soft ground cover such as wet leaves/soft snow or pine needles, to an ambush location exiting the cover you just hazed. Deer tend to move quartering into the wind to adjacent cover, and will prefer to travel in cover in this scenario (your secondary objective is to haze one quarter and direct headwind while indian running at the same time to narrow their options if possible). The best ambush points are open woods with decent visibility. Second best is a natural break in the cover such as a logging road or powerline, but pressured deer will usually cross these at a run so shots can be impossible unless extremely close. You'll need to jam an escape trail on the linear openings. They'll seldom break into open areas such as a field or clearcut, preferring to sit tight in their cover and not respond to hazing.

Bouncing deer: This is best done in hilly, open woods with pockets of heavy cover like blowdown areas, balsam or cedar clumps in the low spots. You approach from quartering downwind, watching carefully in the open woods for a hazed deer to sneak out of the cover on your approach. You usually won't see flags and crashing when this happens. More of a nervous, slinking walk. After an indifferent approach RE noise, get real quiet, and slow walk as if stalking a buck to an upwind quarter from the heavy pocket. Sit absolutely still and quiet for at least 1/2 hour. Failing this, approach the pocket very quietly, be ready for a snap shot. Often they'll hole tight until you move, then bug out at 90 degrees from your approach, trying to loop to your downwind. The only real trophy buck I ever shot was killed in this manner on a heavy trot in open oak woods after watching me the whole time. He was bedded under a windfall 40 yards from where I posted for 30 minutes. A variation of this is the 2 man drive, approaching the pocket simultaneously from downwind and upwind quarters converging at 90 degrees, then the downwind walker enters the cover while the upwind walker posts.

My woods are not conducive to spotting and stalking, so I do it seldomly. I have done it successfully with fresh, wet snow, but that was an extreme exception. I was very hungry for venison, and trailed a buck some 2 miles through National forest land before finding him where I had a clear shot. A very rewarding kill, but I basically ran the deer and myself into the ground. I was in my early 20's. He was a long ways from the truck.
 
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I must admit that I'm guilty of reading paperbacks on stand waiting for the twilight time. However, I have kicked myself several times for doing it when I saw a deer disappearing into brush that I hadn't seen in time because I had my nose in a WEB Griffin book. But that's my punishment for not being alert. No one should be upset that I'm not hunting the "right way". If that's not your bag, fine! I paid the price so shut up about it.
The tablet is less noisy because it is silent when you swipe it to "turn a page". And whenever I turn a page, I am in the habit of slowly lifting my head up and scanning. I'm a pretty fast reader, so this works well for me.
 
Maybe there's folks out there who can sit all day, in the stand, just watching, endlessly. The way I look at it is thus: Yes, I may miss the occasional animal, but if you are there, in the stand, you look up from your diversion, every so often. Much like a game camera, catching a photo, you are taking in the shooting lanes, at your stand, several dozen times, during the outing. Most game makes more noise, than people let on, deer and other animals can be downright noisy, especially moving through brush. So you may miss a thing or two. But, if you had something better to do, you wouldn't be in the stand, would you?
I have had to sit in a sniper or observation hide for DAYS watching endlessly, and reporting everything I saw. It was boring as heck when it wasn't extremely stressful. I'm done with all that- so now I allow myself a few "luxuries", like a comfortable seat and a good book. And going home after a few hours for a shower, a hot meal, and sleep in my own bed.
 
Very James Fenimore Cooper! Can’t say I’ve had much luck with walk and stalk in the woods. I suppose I’m too noisy. Stalking is THE method of deer hunting in Scotland and in other terrains. The important thing is that it gives you satisfaction and enjoyment!
So this may just be me, and the animals and area i hunt, but ive found That if sneaky is out, the method becomes "Dont try to be quiet, try to sound innocuous"

Just walk at a slightly slower than normal pace, while looking around.... but try not to sound deliberate, or appear to be looking FOR something...... and be ready to swing and fire.
Ive shot plenty of standing animals that were just waiting for me to pass. Stoped and talked to a few when I was really just going for a heavily armed hike as my buddy Ed calls it.
 
If you are spooking deer out of your hunting area you are not doing it right. Try to sound like a squirrel with the wind in your face and you will do fine. Most of the deer I shoot still hunting are standing or walking slowly. Sometimes you sneak up on one dozing in a bed. Then it becomes a crap shoot whether it just stands up or busts out giving you a quick snap shot if any.
 
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