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refer post#14 - check out the 'sheild' on that thing. only a head shot w/a pistol round would drop it quickly unless a .44mag with 300 gr hot loads or casull or some such, .50ae or such.
Deer vs. Hog... & bringing enough gun
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Arkansas Paul
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An autoloader in .30-06 like a BAR or a Rem 7400 would be my choice. Plenty of gun with 180 grainers and quick follow up shots if you're on foot.
You can shoot a Pig with the same caliber as you shoot a deer with (assuming .243 and above) if you take a look at this post:
http://thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5713016&postcount=193
The pictures are:
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If you look closely, the "Shield" that you speak of, is HIGH above their vital organs anyway. You want to shoot lower than you would a deer, that's the significant difference. The first photo is obvious the central cortex, or brain stem. Shoot there (smaller target) and instant ground action.
The last pig I took was back in May, and I shot it in the central cortex. Dropped dead right there... took him with a 40gr Vmax .223 round.... was it ethical? You to decide. I knew my shot, I knew my distance, I knew death was right there. All the conditions were perfect, and so I took the calculated shot. If it wasn't the only one there, and there were others, I probably wouldn't have shot it with that bullet... and gone with a different one, that expanded, and not fragmented.
The point is, shield or not, shoot to kill, and the second picture will show you where the heart and lungs are at if you're using a .243, 270WIN, .30-06Springfield, or any other caliber (I left .22 calibers out because I only shoot varmints with my .22 calibers). Use your best judgment.
http://thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5713016&postcount=193
The pictures are:
and
If you look closely, the "Shield" that you speak of, is HIGH above their vital organs anyway. You want to shoot lower than you would a deer, that's the significant difference. The first photo is obvious the central cortex, or brain stem. Shoot there (smaller target) and instant ground action.
The last pig I took was back in May, and I shot it in the central cortex. Dropped dead right there... took him with a 40gr Vmax .223 round.... was it ethical? You to decide. I knew my shot, I knew my distance, I knew death was right there. All the conditions were perfect, and so I took the calculated shot. If it wasn't the only one there, and there were others, I probably wouldn't have shot it with that bullet... and gone with a different one, that expanded, and not fragmented.
The point is, shield or not, shoot to kill, and the second picture will show you where the heart and lungs are at if you're using a .243, 270WIN, .30-06Springfield, or any other caliber (I left .22 calibers out because I only shoot varmints with my .22 calibers). Use your best judgment.
LeonCarr
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Feral Hogs are the enemy of everything good and righteous in this world. Kill them all. There is not such thing as too much gun for hogs.
And for those who don't have hogs on your farm or ranch, buy a lottery ticket because you are very lucky.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
And for those who don't have hogs on your farm or ranch, buy a lottery ticket because you are very lucky.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
JimKirk
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The shield is caused by the continuous rubbing(scrubbing) of trees. If you ever watched hogs before ....they wallow preferably in mud, lots of mud, then they rub and rub and they rub some more. This rubbing is just like when your boots rub a blister on your feet except after about the third time there is no blister only a callus or a shield so to speak. The hog builds these shields to protect themselves from other hogs usually other male hogs with long tusks. Now if you've ever watch two hogs fight you'd know they almost never fight head on, they fight ear to ear or maybe slightly more mismatched. Since a hog almost never lowers his head lower than level to fight, the shields are placed in the perfect spot for protection from the other hogs tusks. I've skinned some shields from a large hog and placed them on an old barn side and shot them with a 22 mag rifle using solid points and it never made it out the other side, this was within an hour of skinning them out so they did not dry before shooting.
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the hog shooting ranches and guides ive talked to from texas all tell me basically :
penetration is what matters. they admit theyve taken pig with .243, but the majority use solid lead slugs or the big fancy ones for dangerous african game to get penetration and some expansion. military cartridges seem to be prefered, 30-06, and x54r seem the popular of that class
penetration is what matters. they admit theyve taken pig with .243, but the majority use solid lead slugs or the big fancy ones for dangerous african game to get penetration and some expansion. military cartridges seem to be prefered, 30-06, and x54r seem the popular of that class
usmc1371
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I thought you were asking wich one would win in a gun fight, the hog or the deer. My bad. I vote for the hog.
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