Defensive Only Shooters? (non LEO, Hobby, Sports, Military, Hunters)

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I personally like to bring my targets home and compare them to targets from past range trips. I generally write down the gun and distance on the target so I don't forget. I don't keep them forever, just long enough to let me see if I'm trending in the right direction.

The biggest improvement I ever saw in my shooting came after I began doing regular dry practice at home. It made a world of difference in my accuracy and didn't cost me a cent.
 
Mainly defense only, but Armadillos that re-landscape my front lawn and tree rats that like sharpening their teeth on my barn end up siting atop my front site.
I practice with carry ammo once a month in the back yard...Gets pretty expensive at almost a buck a round though.
 
indie:
How often do you shoot/go to the range?
How many rounds do you usually use in a trip? How long do you shoot?
Do you practice with snap caps, dry firing?
How much ammo do you keep or store at home per gun?

Once a week.
Usually 100-150 rounds in 2-3 hours.
Yes.
500+ rounds.
 
"How often do you shoot/go to the range?
How many rounds do you usually use in a trip? How long do you shoot?
Do you practice with snap caps, dry firing?
How much ammo do you keep or store at home per gun?"

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Average about every other week.
Anywhere from 150 to 400. Depends on how many guns I bring.
Not too often.
About 400 rounds per gun.
I don't hunt and am not in any competitions. I practice because I enjoy it and also to be familiar with my guns for defensive needs as well. You are in the same city that I am in. What range do you go to? I've been going to "Shooters Choice" in West Columbia, but am looking for a change. Let me know if you've found a good one and good luck with your practice.
 
Time/practice helps...

Indie,

Time and practice with weapons helps. Those who have a couple of decades experience just shooting, whether it is plinking, hunting, or competition, will have a calm familiarity with their guns that can't be replicated any other way but with time and practice...though good training at a school would likely help.

So, relax, get some training if you can, and just start shooting as often as you are able.

As to your specific questions:

How often do you shoot/go to the range?

Every couple of weeks.


How many rounds do you usually use in a trip? How long do you shoot?

Well, I have property where I can take my time and shoot all I want, without having to worry about others doing their own thing. I'll typically shoot for about three hours, and go through a total of 400 - 500 rounds, depending.

Do you practice with snap caps, dry firing?

Sure. It helps.


How much ammo do you keep or store at home per gun?

I have three main calibers: .22, 9mm, 12 ga. Keep about 3 - 4k of .22 and 9mm on hand at any given time, couple hundred 12 ga. Just picked up a Python .357, will start stocking up on ammo for it until I have at least a thousand rounds, mixed between .38 and .357. It won't go bad, and prices will only rise.

Good luck.

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Set goals for each and every practice session.
It's not really "practice makes perfect" more that "Perfect practice makes perfect."
As others have said training... wise.

Equipment other than firearm... flashlight? Holster/belt?

Since you're not yet ready for the CCW, and don't yet have a house, think for a moment like someone who's about to break into your present home... (as much as I hate to talk about "what ifs" they are worthy of some time spent dwelling on them every now and then) how would he do it? When? Where? Harden those points.
Same for when you're out and about...
You got a lawyer? :D get one... even if you R one (or soon may be)

Things to practice?
Safety
Dry Fire (sight alignment, trigger s q u e e z e and the faster press) double action only (you're not bullseye target shooting)
One hand strong
One hand weak
Holding flashlight
Distance you'll likely need skills at present/future home?
Go to range & repeat.

Back home, more dry firing
Think Safety
Sounds stupid, but practice fumbling for your gun in the dark while in bed
While seated at table or watching TV, etc. (where will your handgun be when you really need it? On your hip of course... maybe)
Single tap
Double Taps
Single target
Multiple targets
Reloading, (speed strips, speed loaders, singles?)
Go to range & repeat (maybe not seated at table eating... but then again???)

You get the drift. Have a purpose for each session. Think safety. Talk to your lawyer about the "What to do afterwards?" what ifs.

Once you can shoot 5 rds in 5 seconds at 5 yds within 5" without thinking, every time, take a class. Or two. And then you'll learn... how much you truly don't know. ;)
 
"How often do you shoot/go to the range?
How many rounds do you usually use in a trip? How long do you shoot?
Do you practice with snap caps, dry firing?
How much ammo do you keep or store at home per gun?"
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Average about every other week.
Anywhere from 150 to 400. Depends on how many guns I bring.
Not too often.
About 400 rounds per gun.
I don't hunt and am not in any competitions. I practice because I enjoy it and also to be familiar with my guns for defensive needs as well. You are in the same city that I am in. What range do you go to? I've been going to "Shooters Choice" in West Columbia, but am looking for a change. Let me know if you've found a good one and good luck with your practice.


woody, i havent even fired my gun yet..i just bought my first gun on monday =), but i will start practicing in august. Right now i am getting ready to take the SC bar exam at the end of july and after that i plan on going to shooters choice. Its right up the street from me pretty much because i live off of 378.
 
Take a class (something beyond a CCW class) soon. Don't wait until you develop bad habits you have to "unlearn" later. You are a new gun owner and as much as you think training is too expensive it will definitely save you thousands of dollars in wasted time and ammo and possible tens of thousands of dollars in civil and criminal liability if you have to shoot someone. You have to have an idea what to do before, during and after the fight and while keeping yourself out of jail comes secondary to keeping yourself out of the morgue it's still very important. Before, during and after the fight dozens of legal, tactical and practical decisions have to be made in micro seconds and making any one of them wrong can have dire consequences to your physical and financial well-being.

If you are going to budget for another gun you should spend the money on training instead. A second pistol won’t make you significantly better protected but your first professional training class will. Why own a second gun if you don’t really know how to use the first?
 
I go to the range usually twice a week after work. Once for shotgunning (skeet or trap) and once for Practical pistol and tactical shotgunning. Skeet and trap, I usually go through 100 shells (four rounds of 25 targets) - more if I have time. For pistol, usually about 100 rounds depending on how many people show up for the session. More people=less shooting.

I also go at least one weekend per month and usually burn through about 300 rounds of various types (shotgun, pistol, rifle).

I also hunt upland birds - occaisionally.

My range is only 5 minutes from my home and private - so you can count me as being very lucky.
 
I mainly shoot for defense and practice for such. But 2ndary would be just because I enjoy it as a hobby etc.
 
I'm just curious as to how many folks at THR own guns and practice shooting for personal defense purposes only without being into shooting for sport/hobby, law enforcement, military, or hunting.
My primary reasons for owning guns are (1) defensive purposes and (2) recreational shooting (not just plinking at distant targets, but defensive-style shooting at closer ranges, which is fun).

As i some of you know, i just bought my first gun, a taurus 66, 4" 357 magnum, and i want to learn how to use it for defense purposes.
VERY good choice. As others have mentioned, start with light .38 loads for practice, to get the basics down. You can move up to .357 later.

Work on the basics first - sight alignment (when about to shoot, transition from focusing on the target to focusing on the front sight, and make sure the rears are aligned with the front). Keep adding pressure to the trigger until the gun discharges; the alternative, yanking the trigger when the front sight is perfectly in position, will yank your shots away from the point of aim.

The most important thing anybody ever told me about shooting was the four rules of gun safety:

(1) The gun is always loaded (or, Always treat a gun as if it is loaded).

(2) Never allow the muzzle to point in an unsafe direction (even when dry-firing, aim at something that would safety stop a bullet--a bedroom exterior wall that is brick on the other side, for example).

(3) Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to actually fire.

(4) Always be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

The second most important thing that anybody ever passed along to me was this mantra:

Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.

Good shooting is zen, not frenetic. Concentrate on the front sight and a smooth trigger squeeze, and you'll learn to shoot well. As the muscle memory develops, speed will come.

pricing ammunition and hearing about price increases coupled with hearing how much ammo many of you go through, "practice" seems like its going to be very expensive.
Right now, I go to the range a couple times a month, and typically shoot 50-100 rounds with the 9mm. Much more than 100, and it becomes less helpful, IMHO. And that's with an 8+1 semiauto; 50-60 rounds per range session with a revolver would be plenty, methinks.

Ideas: Staple 6 playing cards (or 3x5 cards) to the target at 5 yards, and shoot each card with one shot COM.

Start from a low ready position, and practice raising the gun, getting a sight picture, and shooting one round at a card. Repeat.

Double tap 3 cards, reload, double tap the other 3.

Etc.

Make it fun. Because even though you are primarily in this for the defensive utility, you'll shoot more (and shoot better) if you enjoy it.

One more thing--go get some of those Silencio foam earplugs from Wal-Mart, AND a set of earmuffs that you find comfortable. When shooting, wear them both. It will improve your shooting, if you are starting out; you'd be surprised how much perceived recoil (especially from a handgun) is a result of the muzzle blast, not the physical recoil of the gun. When the RO calls a cold range to go check targets or whatever, pull the muffs off so you can hear other people talk, but leave the plugs in.


Do you practice with snap caps, dry firing?
Yes. Just triple-check the gun to ensure it's unloaded, EVERY TIME YOU PICK IT UP, and still treat it as if loaded (don't point it at anything that couldn't safely stop a bullet).

How much ammo do you keep or store at home per gun?
Depends on the gun, but I like to have at least a couple hundred rounds per gun, minimum, in case I can't buy any for a while; that way, I don't run short if I want to go to the range a couple of times. I also like to have a "ready reserve" of two to four loaded magazines. If I owned a revolver, I'd probably keep two or three loaded speedloaders or moon clips, in addition to boxed ammo.
 
benEzra, i really appreciate the advice. Especially on how to practice aim and trigger pull. Thats another "new" piece of gold for me. I will definitely take heed to all of the wisdom offered in this thread.
 
Thought of something else

The snap caps that I use for dryfire in my house I paint with that bright orange "safety paint" That way there is NO mistaking live rounds for snap caps.
 
I shoot because it's fun and I go randomly but atleast 4 times a week and shoot about 300 rounds each visit.
 
I highly recommend you take a basic handgun defense class, do some range time then take a level 2 class for more barrier work. Anyone can take a box of ammo and hit the range but it doesn't prepare you for what really happens in a SD event.
 
i go to a indoor range about every other week.i only shoot for about a half a hour 50 to 100 rds. i used to shoot for a longer time 2 to 3 hours but found that if i got a little tried that i would start getting bad habbits.
 
How often do you shoot/go to the range?
How many rounds do you usually use in a trip? How long do you shoot?
Do you practice with snap caps, dry firing?
How much ammo do you keep or store at home per gun?

2-4 times a month (range is 20 mins away, so easy for me to visit)
50-100 rounds of pistol practice, plus some rifle work
dry fire at least once a week - trying to increase, but physical therapy for a knee injury has been eating time.
ammo on hand - defensive ammo (JHP) ~250rds (even though I don't go through it very fast, it can be hard to find, so I make sure to have enough to last until a mail order would come in), practice (FMJ) ~1000rds (I try to buy when there are sales, and then have enough to last until the next sale)

I'm fairly new to shooting; I started learning last year for defensive purposes. I'll agree with the many that have stated taking a class as a high priority. Personally, I opted for a class (LFI-I*) instead of a second pistol, as I wanted to have a good understanding of the legal issues surrounding the defensive use of a firearm, along with a good course in the mechanics of shooting.

Since the topic of using 38 Special to practice vs 357 Magnum has been brought up, I think it is worth noting that you need to have practice with your carry load, as it will have a different recoil characteristic to deal with - important for follow-up shots or second targets.


*LFI-I is "Judicious Use of Deadly Force" run by the Lethal Force Institute - see Pax's site for description: http://www.corneredcat.com/Reviews/LFI1.aspx
 
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