Defiance Action with remage barrel?

[Bayourambler]

I have put together a couple of savage 10 bolt guns with Precut barrels and have been very happy with the results. I was thinking of taking it to the next level and get a better action for possibly getting into prs matches. Has anyone here had experience with screwing a remage barrel onto a true custom action? I like the price and looks of the Defiance Tenacity action. I’m just hesitant about using a remage barrel on such a high end receiver. I enjoy putting the savages I built together, but I haven’t tackled a Remington receiver yet. Should I just pay a smith to install a barrel the traditional way? Or, will the remage barrel work good enough? I’m not looking for benchrest accuracy, but I’d like it to match the accuracy I get with my savage /shilen match combos. They shoot pretty darn good. (.6-.7 Moa)

 

[Varminterror]

One of the guys on the Kansas club I shoot with a lot did a Remage on a Deviant last season. He had been using conventional/shouldered barrels for years before that, then tried the Remage to save money on barrels and save time on smithing.

He went back to a shouldered barrel this season.

 

[Legionnaire]

I have been very happy with the Remages I have built on trued Remington actions. But were I springing for a true custom action, I'd have a smith install the barrel. That, or learn to install and headspace a shouldered barrel myself.

 

[Bayourambler]

One of the guys on the Kansas club I shoot with a lot did a Remage on a Deviant last season. He had been using conventional/shouldered barrels for years before that, then tried the Remage to save money on barrels and save time on smithing.

He went back to a shouldered barrel this season.

Good to know. Do you know what kind of problems he was having?

 

[Varminterror]

Barrel availability for different contours, chamberings, and twists is one reason. Some of the same reasons I prefer a shouldered barrel myself.

The tolerance stacking opportunity is really one I don’t ever feel comfortable with.

I’m actually very tempted to do a Remage on my son’s new action, to see how it stacks up to the shouldered barrel - not really a side by side since they would be sequential barrels, but at least the same action and chambering.

 

[Bayourambler]

I would be curious to see a side by side test, as close as you could anyway. Availability is the downside though on remages. I bet a great barrel could be made to shoot right there with a shouldered barrel. I know the Shilen and McGowens we put on the Savage action shoot like nobody's business!

 

[horsey300]

I would be curious to see a side by side test, as close as you could anyway. Availability is the downside though on remages. I bet a great barrel could be made to shoot right there with a shouldered barrel. I know the Shilen and McGowens we put on the Savage action shoot like nobody's business!

Big horn makes a crf that takes savage prefits, there is always a trued savage action as well, northlandshooterssupply has em, might be an idea for you.

 

[rbernie]

Do any of the Remington-pattern actions provide or support a trigger / safety that locks the bolt? Does such a thing exist?

 

[z7]

Big horn and American rifle company actions use savage pattern barrels for this purpose - the dyi gunsmith who can screw on a barrel, hang a trigger and bolt the gun into a chassis, all without a gunsmith being involved. Generally they work very well and I imagine the remage system will work equally as well.

Possible downside is fitting in the chassis/stock depending on what barrel nut and stock is used

Another downside I have read about with a barrel nut is when you bump the barrel hard into something you might get a point of impact change vs a shouldered barrel properly torqued into place- no experience here just read about it

If you want a barrel burning cartridge (6mm Creedmoor) you might want a barrel nut so you can change them yourself for cheap

If you have plenty of $ to spend you can get two or three shouldered barrels chambered at once and just change barrels yourself

 

[Varminterror]

Do any of the Remington-pattern actions provide or support a trigger / safety that locks the bolt? Does such a thing exist?

I am fairly certain Defiance’s option for a shroud safety is 3 position.

 

[Bayourambler]

Has anyone hear run the bolt and shoot on a Bighorn action? The only complaint I have with savage actions is that they tend to not run as smooth and feed as well as Remington style actions.

 

[z7]

Has anyone hear run the bolt and shoot on a Bighorn action? The only complaint I have with savage actions is that they tend to not run as smooth and feed as well as Remington style actions.

Ran one briefly, way smoother than a savage, not quite as smooth as my mausingfield but the bighorn origin costs half as much
Ymmv of course as people’s judgement varies

 

[Varminterror]

Has anyone hear run the bolt and shoot on a Bighorn action? The only complaint I have with savage actions is that they tend to not run as smooth and feed as well as Remington style actions.

The Deviant will be smoother than the TL3, mostly by nature. The biggest difference is how much more cock on close you’ll feel with the TL3. Not so different than the Seekins I shoot. The same guy I mentioned above who changed away from Remages had a TL3, he bailed on it when he picked up a Deviant cert at a match, but he did tell me he had other TL3 shooters telling him he could reduce the heavy cock on close by timing the trigger. Another couple I know who shoot together had TL3’s, but bought Impact actions for this season.

There are some cool features to the TL3’s though. Controlled round feed, I could take or leave, and honestly rather leave. It’s more resistance and more finicky when you drop one in the port from your quiver on the clock (aka, your “match savers”). The replaceable bolt head could be cool if you think you might be changing back and forth between cartridges. The mechanical ejector is really convenient and can be a cool feature - it’ll fling them far when you run hard and fast, but can drop them soft and short if you run the bolt slowly.

For my money? Impact or Defiance.