Democrats want to choose next SCOTUS Jusice.

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Senator Seeks a Consensus in Replacing Any Justice
By NEIL A. LEWIS
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/16/p...00&en=38454528211a069b&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

ASHINGTON, June 15 — Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont has urged President Bush to avoid a traumatic national battle over the Supreme Court by consulting with him and other leading Democrats before choosing a nominee, should a vacancy occur.

In two recent letters to the White House, Mr. Leahy, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, said that if Mr. Bush took advantage of a vacancy on the court to select a staunchly conservative judge, it would produce a political war that would upset the nation and diminish respect for the courts.

"Though the landscape ahead is sown with the potential for controversy and contention over vacancies that may arise on the court, contention is avoidable, and consensus should be our goal," Mr. Leahy wrote on Wednesday. "I would hope your objective will not be to send the Senate nominees so polarizing that their confirmations are eked out in narrow margins."

Mr. Leahy said his two letters urging a bipartisan process, the one on Wednesday and one sent on May 14, had not been answered.

A White House official said the second letter had not yet been received. But this official made it sound as if that did not matter.

"There are no vacancies on the Supreme Court, so these kinds of discussions are premature," this official said.

Mr. Leahy said in an interview that he believed that Mr. Bush had an opportunity to defuse a potentially explosive situation precisely because there was no vacancy.

The next few weeks, he said, will provide an opportunity for a bipartisan agreement that will be lost if a Supreme Court retirement is announced at the end of the term in a few weeks.

Conservatives and liberals have been planning for the possibility that at least one justice will retire at the end of the term, given the age of several of them and the belief that this is Mr. Bush's last chance to choose a justice before the presidential campaign begins in earnest.

"The courts are the one part of government people yearn to believe is free of politics," Mr. Leahy said. "That's why the Florida case shook people so much," a reference to the Supreme Court ruling in Bush v. Gore that resulted in Mr. Bush's presidency.

Underlying the latest proposal by Mr. Leahy are the myriad political calculations each side has been making for any Supreme Court resignation, nomination and confirmation fight.

So far, the Bush White House and Senate Democrats have chosen confrontation over several nominees for the federal appeals courts, the level just below the Supreme Court.

Although the Senate has 51 Republicans, a bare majority, Democrats have blocked votes on two appeals court nominees and are likely to do so with other candidates, by mounting filibusters, or extended debates.

Mr. Leahy would not name any candidate conservative enough to satisfy Mr. Bush but nonideological enough to win broad support in the Senate.

Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, a Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, offered such a list to the White House last week. His recommendations included Senator Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, who is also on the committee; Judge Edward Prado of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, who was nominated by Mr. Bush; and Judge Michael Mukasey of the Southern District of New York, who was nominated by President Ronald Reagan.

Mr. Leahy and Mr. Schumer noted that the chairman of the committee, Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, had taken some credit for advising President Bill Clinton in his selection of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer for the Supreme Court.

In his book "Square Peg" (Basic Books, 2002), Mr. Hatch asserts that he advised Mr. Clinton not to select Bruce Babbitt, one of his cabinet officers and a former Arizona governor, because that would produce a divisive fight. Mr. Hatch said he recommended Judge Ginsburg and Judge Breyer, Mr. Clinton's eventual appointments.
 
Bush will deserve every bit of the contempt he will receive if he crawls into bed with Leahy and Schumer.

SCOTUS is the last lever of power left in Washington for the Democrats to push. They have to fight like there is no tomorrow because politically that may well be a reality.
 
Is this the same make-nice, consensus-loving, contention-avoiding Democratic Party whose more rabid members are now floating the possibility of Presidential impeachment?

The hard fact is that this nation is deeply divided politically and philosophically. There are issues about which no compromise is going to be possible.
 
Bush should consult with Leahy and other Dem. leaders at the same level that Clinton consulted Gingrich and Dole about his SC nominees. What? Clinton didn't? Color me surprised. :eek:

:evil:
 
Involuntary reflex action by Leahy

The Democrats were in power for so long that they are still struggling witht he idea of not being in control of everything.

I seem to remember that back in 94 when the GOP first took over the house and chairmanships were changing that the Dem's proposed:

1. That committee chairmanships should be shared, from now on.

2. Existing office space holders be left alone. Leaving the Dem's with the big prestigious offices that go with the chairmanships.

In short, after 40 years of total control of the house, they viewed the GOP people as short term interlopers and didn't want them to get too comfortable, since their election was really just a fluke, right?

Sounds like they still don't get it and think they should have a say in everything; constitutional checks and balances system be damned.

Hmmm? I don't see GWB sharing his "feelings" with leaky Leahy and I do see a major ranting and raving coming about anyone Bush nominates when the time comes.

Don P.
 
I hope the Democrats have no input whatsoever into the appointment of any SCJ. They have moved so far to the left that they remind me more of a Socialist party than a Democratic one. Socialism is NOT what the USA was founded on. Democrats would love to change our system of government from a democratic republic to a socialist model. I hope they all get run out of office. Let the Republicans and the Libertarians battle it out as the two major parties. The Liberals are just plain unamerican. Just check history, because the liberals are on the wrong side of it every time.
 
Mr. Leahy must have missed the day in his civics class when they covered the separation of powers. Senators do not appoint Supreme Court Justices. The President appoints them, and then the Senate has the opportunity to "advise and consent." That's it.

More to the point, one Senator who represents a minority among the Senate does not get to force his agenda into the nomination process unless the President is an exceptional wimp.
 
Standing wolf - that reply ROCKS!!!

Leahy is an out-and-out Communist. It is a disgrace to this fine country that he is on the Judiciary Comittee. I'd say he ought to be put to the sword but someone here may think I'm serious and sic the PC police on me.

"Putting "to the sword" is merely the opinion of the poster and in now way reflects attribution nor concurrence by members and/or ownership of this forum". Less tax and title, all applicable local laws still apply. Your mileage may vary. :rolleyes:
 
This WILL be a big deal, and everyone knows it. If Bush caves on this issue, I will be surprised and very, very disappointed. Still wouldn't vote for Hillary, tho.
 
Were there any calls for consultation from the Dims prior to Bubba Clintoon's nomination of the hard-leftist Ruth Bader Ginsberg? No? then F:cuss::cuss::cuss: the Dims.
 
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Leahy wants consensus? What do others think of "consensus"?

"There are still people in my party who believe in consensus politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors... I mean it."
-- Margaret Thatcher

To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects.
-- Margaret Thatcher

A long time ago a bunch of people reached a general consensus as to what's real and what's not and most of us have been going along with it ever since.
-- Charles de Lint
 
Seeker_two: I'll step up to the plate to run the 'THR members for Presidential Candidate Al Sharpton in '08' group. :evil:

Standing Wolf: ROTFLMAO, that's such a perfect reply.

Kharn
 
My 'sensus' suggests the the Dem-ole-rats are trying to pull another 'con'






:evil: lousy puns intended
 
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