I do not really know why, but lately I've been reading up on Desert Eagles as a potential range toy (no illusions as to its practicality for most situations). One thing I consistently read is that using cast bullets in it is a no-no. People go so far as to say using them will ruin the barrel, and you will have to send it back to MR to get them to clean the port since it is integral to the barrel. Reading all this, I couldn't help but wonder, couldn't one just use the dip (hydrogen peroxide and white vinegar) to clear it? I'm aware of the potential health hazards and would not want to do it regularly, but it seems a lot easier than sending it back to the factory. The suppressor crowd seems to have good results with the dip.
Desert Eagle, cast bullets, and "the dip"
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The gas system is a series of small diameter holes, I wonder if your dip would reach the areas it needed to in sufficient quantity to move the lead out.
I can see the dip penetrating to the needed areas, but not circulating enough.
I can see the dip penetrating to the needed areas, but not circulating enough.
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The Dip as you call it will destroy the barrel, been there done that. It's just a matter of time. Everytime you use it small pits are made in the steel.
As far as lead goes I would just powder coat the bullets and make sure there sized right and you shouldn't have any problems.
As far as lead goes I would just powder coat the bullets and make sure there sized right and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Jeez, why are people still shooting plain cast lead bullets? Get a powder coating setup. Better in every possible way (than even jacketed in many cases), and essentially the same price (at least, much closer to the lead end of the cost spectrum than the jacketed end)
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Thompsoncustom, that's a good observation that I had overlooked. Pretty obvious in hindsight, but maybe my brain isn't as good as it once was. The suppressor guys do seem to limit its use to stainless or titanium cans, not carbon steel.
I had wondered about the Hi Tek Supercoat products out which I think is some form of polyurethane (not sure) but had wondered if little pieces would shave off
I had wondered about the Hi Tek Supercoat products out which I think is some form of polyurethane (not sure) but had wondered if little pieces would shave off
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Because powder coating is an added step, and therefore takes more time. I have two guns that shoot powder coated and tumble lubed bullets the equally well. It is wasted time to powder coat the bullets I shoot in those two guns. Oh and not everyone casts either. Since commercially available lead bullets come with lube already on them, it is two extra steps to powder coat because the lube has to be removed.
That answers the question of, "Why doesn't this brand new thing change everything overnight?"
I would be wary of coated or plated in a gas pistol. I've read of plating being stripped by the gas holes causing trouble, I would be concerned about coated doing the same.
I would stick to jacketed until you get an answer from Magnum Research or another reliable source.
They (IMI at the time) didn't even want you to use open base jacketed bullets like FMJs because of the gas system.
I would stick to jacketed until you get an answer from Magnum Research or another reliable source.
They (IMI at the time) didn't even want you to use open base jacketed bullets like FMJs because of the gas system.
I have built some test loads using plated bullets in .44 Magnum for my Desert Eagle. Hopefully I will be able to test them soon. If that goes well, I will be trying for coated bullets after that.
The gas holes IMO won't strip the plating off, but the velocity required to operate the Desert Eagle (max or near-max loads typically) may cause the plating to strip off. Time will tell.
The gas holes IMO won't strip the plating off, but the velocity required to operate the Desert Eagle (max or near-max loads typically) may cause the plating to strip off. Time will tell.
I just traded off my .44 Desert Eagle last week.....I wanted one for years and finally bought one new last year. It was the worst handgun I've ever owned, the amount of jamming out of that pistol was insane. 2 or 3 rounds per mag was the norm and it also wanted to spew powder back at the shooter. I tried several kinds of ammo and it didn't particularly care for any of it....the pistol was accurate but it wasn't reliable at all.
If your desire is to shoot a lot of cast I would consider a Super Redhawk instead...you can shoot what you want through it with no problems..
If your desire is to shoot a lot of cast I would consider a Super Redhawk instead...you can shoot what you want through it with no problems..
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I had a 357 DE. And the guy at the LGS just said DONT EVER! So I didn't. I didn't reload for that round so I didn't argue.
Peracetic acid will etch the devil out of carbon steels( nonstainless). Stainless steel is GTG.
Peracetic acid will etch the devil out of carbon steels( nonstainless). Stainless steel is GTG.
Like I said, I have no illusions about what it is and is not, but sometimes you just get bored. I've got a SW69 .44, Ruger Alaskan .454, a Bisley and FA97 in .45 Colt and burn a fair amount of H110. Sometimes you just want something a little different to play with. That said, I probably don't want it enough to feed it a steady diet of jacketed bullets.
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