Did I get a good deal, or did I get a good deal?

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I am glad things were not the way they were perceived in post #1. I even commented about it. I still didn't believe after reading post #46, it sounded too much like damage control as some had put it, but the OP made clear the issue in post #70. This was a young man very excited about getting something really nice for only $50.00, so excited he got on here to tell his other buddies (us) about his awesome deal, not thinking about how it looked on paper. He just wanted to share a story with us so we could be happy for him too.

It sounds like the reality is it could have been fifty, a thousand, or a million dollars, either way he gave his buddy everything he had! Good job Cauber!

Cauber,

I am not sorry I said what I told you in my previous post, because you didn't give me enough info before I posted that and that post was based on the info you provided, but I will tell you that you have changed my mind. You sound like a good friend and your buddy is lucky to have you.

Now for the good stuff! I want to see what all the hub bub is about. Post some pics and get out and shoot the darn thing so we can see how it shoots!!!

Mike
 
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baldeagle93 said:
me said:
Use the rifle for collateral, for the loan of $50.00...otherwise you are robbing your "buddy".
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I'm almost with Mav on this one except I would say you don't loan a "friend" money, you GIVE it to them with NO expectations on getting it back. When/if they pay you back, you have then truly helped out a brother in need.

Some friends don't help, but a true friend is closer than your own family
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I agree completely. I don't have a great deal of true friends, but I am blessed to have a handful. Every one I would give anything they need if I were able to do so, with no expectation of reward. The few times that I needed some help myself, friends were paid back with interest, because a true friend is of far greater value. Collateral is for business deals and acquaintances. xyxthumbs.gif
 
Cauber...;
However you do it you need to make this right. You could give him a few hundred and you'd STILL be "making out." And ya know what? It doesn't really matter how much of a buddy he is. Integrity is what you do when no-one's watching. I know it won't be easy. We're rooting for ya...
Al
 
You still have a chance to make it right and give him fair market value. Then you will show yourself to be a true buddy and thereby gain the respect and admiration of most all your critics.
 
Why are we allowing a 4-page thread to go on which is at its heart about ETHICS, money, hard times, and friendship, and has nothing to do directly with firearms, and yet my thread trying to get people over to the accessories forum, a valid gun-related thread and discussion, is closed?

Just had to ask.
 
I'm always looking for a deal.
But when it comes to family and friends, I'll try and stay around the market value. If my buddy wants to sell his Hi-Point C9 to me for $200, because he's going through hard times, I couldn't afford to do that with my money. And if he wants me to buy his mint Detective Special for $100, I couldn't afford to do that with my morals.
 
Like I said, if I had more to give, I would have, but in reality, my situation isn't all that much better than his. My recording studio business isn't doing very well at all, to the point where I consider myself unemployed. I am currently doing odd jobs here and there until I can find a steady. And when I said I only had $50, I meant I literally had $50 in my wallet. I lived out of the change jar for a few days after that.
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It seems that you both still have a great deal to learn. If you have $50 to your name, you shouldn't spend it all on a luxury. As for your friend, if he has no income and had to sell a bunch of stuff for a down payment, how is he going to make the monthly payments? Should have bought a beater with what cash he had until he has steady income again.

While I'm not going to lambaste you on your "deal", I will say that your judgement (and your friends) is a bit lacking, based on the details provided. I did dumb stuff like that when I was younger, too. You'll pay for it later. Maybe there won't be consequences for this particular deal, but once you enter the real world, financial decisions like this one will have a much higher price down the road.
 
It seems that you both still have a great deal to learn. If you have $50 to your name, you shouldn't spend it all on a luxury. As for your friend, if he has no income and had to sell a bunch of stuff for a down payment, how is he going to make the monthly payments? Should have bought a beater with what cash he had until he has steady income again.

While I'm not going to lambaste you on your "deal", I will say that your judgement (and your friends) is a bit lacking, based on the details provided. I did dumb stuff like that when I was younger, too. You'll pay for it later. Maybe there won't be consequences for this particular deal, but once you enter the real world, financial decisions like this one will have a much higher price down the road.
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^^^
I couldn't have said that better myself, but I still think giving your friend everything you have to help him out is commendable, whether you got something or not in return.
 
but I still think giving your friend everything you have to help him out is commendable, whether you got something or not in return.
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Ordinarily, I would agree. I've given friends money I didn't really have plenty of times to help them out because they were worse off than me. But in this instance, that money is contributing to what will likely be further hardship for his friend in short order. It'd be a different story if his friend needed that money to repair or make the payment on his current car. But to buy a new (or used) one that he's gonna be paying for for 3, 4, 5 years or more? Not so much.
 
Again, we do not know all of the variables. Maybe he needs this car to start a new job that requires reliable transportation and not just a beater... How many times has a friend just asked for money and didn't really explain all of the variables? It has happened to me plenty of times and I have usually not asked questions. Remember this is a friend. It doesn't matter what he needed the money for really. What matters is that the friend stated he needs the money. If I have it I give it. Most of the time I am paid back equal or more than lent, sometimes not so much, but this is one litmus test of friendship is it not?

I do agree that if the kid just wanted the car so bad and just needed to buy a car for the purpose of having a car, then I agree, this friend should have explained that he was not making a good choice. That is, assuming this friend knew it was a bad choice. Many many variables. These guys are young, sometimes the best lessons are learned by the school of hard knocks!

Mike
 
i give $100.00 to a "boddy" at work untill next pay day...

i would give 50.00 to a boddy untill he can pay back, but if he can't... i'm sure not to take a $400.00 gun from him... came on man.... he's your buddy not a stranger.
 
Why are we allowing a 4-page thread to go on which is at its heart about ETHICS, money, hard times, and friendship, and has nothing to do directly with firearms, and yet my thread trying to get people over to the accessories forum, a valid gun-related thread and discussion, is closed?

Just had to ask.
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welcome to THR!
 
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