Die Spacers

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Trikerider

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Where can you buy or find the .10 spacers to fit under a set of 38 special dies to load up .357 loads without having to adjust them? I have looked locally for anything with that size opening and .10 thick, but no luck. Does someplace like Midway or wherever have them for sale? Thanks Trikerider
 
I know of no place that sells them but resetting dies is both easy and quick so they really aren't in demand.
 
I made my .38 & .44 ones out of surface ground 7/8" flat washers about 40 years ago.
Should have got a patent on them!

Actual thickness needed are:
44 Special/44 Magnum spacer (.125")
38 Special/357 Magnum spacer (.135")
.40 S&W/10mm = (.142")
.32 S&W long/.32 H&R Mag = (.155")
.32 S&W Long/.327 Federal = (.285")

rc
 
You guys on this forum absolutely dumbfound me! rcmodel, Walkalong, Reloaderfred, where do you folks have time to find/figure out all of this stuff? Almost "every" problem that comes along, rcmodel has a cure for it, totally amazing guys I'll say for sure, totally amazing! Thanks guys for your help, if in a quandary, I'll start looking here from now forward. Thanks
 
I don't know if they go on sale or not, but Midway does have them. Kind of pricey, but I got a lot of miles out of mine over the years. I finally bought separate .38 Spl/.357 Mag and .44 Spl/.44 Mag dies a few years ago, but I used the spacers successfully for a long time.
 
So THAT'S what that thing is for??? Thanks guy's. I just started loading 38 special rounds and when I got my RCBS dies there was a spacer in the die box. I just left it there and wondered what the heck was going on. Trikerider, I guess RCBS includes the spacer in the die box now.

The Dove
 
Well, RCBS sells them with the dies so I imagine you could call them. They shouldn't be hard to come by.
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate all the helpful replies. After seeing the $9.99 price from Midway, I think I will just buy another set of dies for $32.99 and set them for .357 loads. They would be worth something down the road if I ever get out of reloading, whereas the spacers is $10 that is probably gone. Can never have to many die sets anyway. Thanks again guys. Trikerider


PS: Thanks for the welcome also, that was my first post here, but have been lurking for a while as a member, and longer before that.
 
They would work for .44 Special/.44 Mag.

As I posted earlier, .38/.357 needs to be .135" thick, not .125".

rc
 
30-ish years ago I had a spacer made by another shooter who was a machinist. Now that I have a turret press I picked up a set of used 38 Spl dies and have both the 38 and 357 dies mounted in that press.
 
788Ham,

Most of our knowledge has been learned the hard way, before there was an internet. We experimented, read books, experimented more, read more books, and if we were lucky, we knew someone who would give us a few pointers along the way. I didn't have that help, so I just plugged along, starting with loading for an M1 Garand in 1963 on a used Hollywood press that I bought from a college professor. When I started casting bullets in 1968, is was for a Ruger Blackhawk, and again there was no one to ask for help. Did I make mistakes? Of course I did, but I learned from them and didn't repeat them. Now I'm trying to keep others from making some of the same mistakes I made way back then.

Now I load for 31 different calibers and have roughly 100 bullet molds. At last count, I had loaded somewhere around 750,000 rounds of ammunition, which included loading about 60,000 rounds a year for the Sheriff's Dept. I worked for when I was rangemaster for 2 1/2 years.

Along the way you pick up a little knowledge, and even retain some of it, though as we get older, it seems like some of that information is getting harder to retrieve...... Now with the internet we can share some of what we've learned with those who are interested enough to ask. I like to respond to serious questions, but admit that I don't have much use for whiners or trolls. If I feel someone is really asking for knowledge, then I'm more than willing to help, if I know the answer to the question.

And that brings me to another pet peeve, those who have no knowledge about a particular subject, but insist on posting opinions about it. On another forum a poster asked a question about shooting the .45-120 Sharps with smokeless loads. I've been shooting one for about 20+ years and have put a lot of rounds downrange in that caliber. One poster got on there and admitted that he had never seen the caliber, let alone shoot one, but he posted two long paragraphs on what he thought about it, which was all wrong, of course. Those kinds of posts light my fire, but I generally just ignore them and won't post behind them, unless it's something dangerous or just plain stupid.

If you have a serious question, don't hesitate to ask. You'll figure out pretty quickly who is going to give you a straight answer and who won't.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
Actual thickness needed are:
44 Special/44 Magnum spacer (.125")
38 Special/357 Magnum spacer (.135")
.40 S&W/10mm = (.142")
.32 S&W long/.32 H&R Mag = (.155")
.32 S&W Long/.327 Federal = (.285")

rc

It is hard to learn what is right when the Gunzine Gurus and Internet Experts keep telling you the difference between Special and Magnum is a tenth of an inch today and an eighth of an inch tomorrow.

I bought a set of spacers that include .125" for .44, .135" for .38, and .0625" for an easier change from crimp to no-crimp; but they just supplement my old .135" washer that a machinist in my agency shop ground down for me.
 
ReloaderFred,

Yessir it has helped! Thank you taking the time to offer and explain as you have. I too have learned over the last 30-some years of reloading, I won't bore you with all of the screw ups I've managed to pull off, nothing stupid, just not sure if what I was doing was how it should be done, no internets then either. I have reloaded for quite a few calibers, but have never reloaded to the quantities you have. I have a very good friend who reloads also, we share a lot of things about loads, techniques, etc., but this forum has given me MORE knowledge, and from folks as yourself, than I've known about in all of my years of reloading and shooting. This is why I've thanked you and rc and Walker for your answers, time and knowledge, I do truly appreciate it, and no, I'm not a troll or knothead trying to test anyone's typing skills and waste your time. I'll be back, again, thanks Pard ! Happy Trails
 
And as I learned from my post, they aren't .10 longer anyway as I have seen posted someplace, they are .135 longer. I would have gotten the wrong thickness and would have probably screwed up several cases before figuring that one out. Again, thanks for all the good info guys. Trikerider
 
I have always used 1/8" square key stock because I always thought that's what the difference was. I put a 1" piece on each side of the seat or taper crimp die under the nut when I change between .38 and .357. My .38's and .357s didn't seem to notice the .010" difference. All these years, I never did the math!
 
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