Disengaging the safety

[Kamicosmos]

Oh! Those 6 P's! I use them all the time at work! Lol...

I was sitting here thinking it must be some kind of mantra from some high dollar pistol training school! heh

 

[Ivy Mike]

speaking of work, how many of you have found yourself following gun rules while on the job (excluding cops as gun rules are a part of your job)

When I was changing tires, I noticed myself keeping my finger off the trigger of the impact wrenches.

 

[Malamute]

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Hey, here's another one along the same lines. I've seen people at teh range with traditional da/sa autos shoot the first shot DA, then fire every remaining shot SA. Even had one guy ask me what was wrong when I kept decocking my Sig 239 to practice the DA first shot."


"I think that what you were practicing is a fairly bad habit. I know why you are doing it, but if you decock and then fire again double action, and repeatedly do this, you may under stress of a firefight do the same."


This reminds me of a couple of training glitches that showed up in real life. One is the classic revolver problem of catching the brass in the hand to keep from having to crawl around and find it later, and slowing the reload when being shot at. The other is the story of the female cop (? it was posted recently, I don't recall where it was) in the shootout with the guy in the car that does a tactical reload (or non-tactical in this case)when she should have been continuing to fire. Yes, we do in real life what we train to do, but we should still have our brain turned on when possible. We still need to be able to make decisions. This may be the hardest thing to teach. Thinking under pressure.

Practice for real life, not range conditions, is the best advice if carrying or owning for self protection. Empty magazines and brass on the ground are best. If your mags get beat up, get a blanket or pad to drop them on, or you can buy more.

I don't practice safety on mag changes in 1911's, tho they are usually empty when I change them. Safety can't be on with the slide back.

 

[klover]

This is why I would never own another 1911

no squeeze bang, no collection or carry value. Make mine DA/SA or DAO please.

 

[Correia]

Easy to solve problem if you learn to shoot your 1911 high thumb. My natural grip has my right thumb sitting on top of the thumb safety. You pretty much can't manage to screw that up.

 

[Ivy Mike]

gee, my weapons work in DA for the first shot, so there is no reason to go "high thumb" on such a weapon.

DA is the better method. SA is just asking for trouble and gives a false sense of security based on a mechanical device.

 

[Matt-man]

I'm a 1911 shooter. These are my procedures:

Safety is clicked off as pistol rotates upward after clearing holster. This leaves me good-to-go if I need to fire from a retention position.

When holstering, safety goes back on as the gun rotates down heading for the holster. Safety's off for pretty much the entire time the gun is out of the holster.

The finger stays off the trigger until the gun comes up on a target.

I don't see what trouble my single-action pistol asks for, given the trigger is covered by the holster and my finger goes nowhere near the trigger until I'm bringing the gun up onto a target. How is it any different from a DA gun without a manual safety?