Disturbing police state incident in Arizona

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not a strain on my tax dollar,
I know, that is want got me upset .It sound (well to me) , as long as the money was not come out of your pocket, the illegals immigrants were ok being here.

OK this is getting us know were, LETS MOVE ON!!:D
 
Tamara,
Did you miss the part where I said: "As long as the immigrants who are coming are productive, not a strain on my tax dollar, and don't attempt to hijack the legislative process to gain special rights..."? A criminal is a criminal, a thief is a thief, and a leech is a leech; I don't care where they were born or what language they speak. Ditto with an honest, hardworking person.
Since we do live in a real world (last I checked), and absolving the entire welfare state is a pipe dream, what then would be your solution? I think we both agree that checkpoints are not good from a constitutional standpoint, so what should be done? By all means, pontificate. Do keep it within the realm of the feasible though.


Runt,
They've brought alot of good Mex food and colorful culture, and are extremely friendly and courteous.
HAHAHAHA. Pardon my interjection, but Nashville was the place I stopped to get a Mexican meal and was told, when I asked for butter to go with my tortilla, that they didn’t have any in the entire restaurant. Ate something in Knoxville that was supposed to be “good Mexican food†over the Thanksgiving holiday’s and it was no more Mexican than pork is BBQ. (Where did I put that nomex...?) :p
 
ahenry,
"Good food" is relative. I figured it was common knowledge that alot "foreign food" restaurants modify their recipes for the tastebuds of the locals. "Strange" though - when Oleg and I go to our favorite Mexican restaurant, the customer population is 90% Hispanic. I feel like I've crossed over the border because most everybody else is speaking Spanish.

I wouldn't tell my mother how to cook Vietnamese food, as individual recipes vary. "But ma, it says in this recipe book right here...."
 
Driving is a privilege? I know thats what they want us to think but a lot of misconceptions abound about that statement.

My understanding is that the licensing laws went into effect for commercial purposes only. The Constitution says we have the right to the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. So if you're not licensed does that mean that you're not allowed to pursue your happiness by jumpin in your ride and going to visit your friend? Sorry hosea, thats defacto BS. If you are a private citizen, in a private vehicle, going about non-commercial personal business, YOU DONT NEED A LICENSE. But all the hypocrites have made it law by sheepful compliance making it a law par se'.

If you tell a lie long enough, eventually it'll be accepted as the truth. Even by all those pro-2nd people.:confused: Draw your line in front of your last gun and make our forfathers proud you hypocrites.

I agree that he could have probably made his day go more smoothly if he would have presented his license (I have one too.) But OTOH, the man is correct and I applaud his stand in the gestapo face tactics. If we ALL stood in their face demanding lawfulness on their part, then our country would not be in the shape it is in right now. But, so many hypocrites, so little brains and backbone.

(I agree Tamara is cut from a Heinlein book. Friday comes to mind.) And mods...My seemingly sharp statements are no attack or intended to anyone in particular. Just my 2 cents in general for this 'hot topic'...:)
 
Folks, this thread has moved from an analysis of an actual traffic stop, via illegal immigration, through xenophobia, to comparisons between Tamara and Heinlein's characters!!! I think it can now be definitively classified as "off-topic" - and in any event, the original report is now updated in a subsequent thread. Closing this one now.
 
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