CraigC
Sixgun Nut
I don't make excuses, I provide reasons. Has nothing to do with being lazy. It is simply unnecessary. Period.
I wont carry a dirty gun, but it has nothing to do with the function of the gun, it has to do with possibly walking into a <deleted> storm I had nothing to do with and get caught up in the aftermath. Why put yourself in a position you dont need to be in, because your to lazy to clean your gun?
Mine have ALWAYS worked when clean. ALWAYS. I have seen and personally experienced guns that have sat dirty for long periods, that did not function properly when first used.Best to walk into a <deleted> storm with a clean gun instead of a functioning one ?
This ain't the military and what works for them is not necessarily best for the rest of us. Probably most of those who enter the military have never owned or fired a rifle before. So yes, there is much need for those folks to become intimately familiar with their battle rifle. There are reasons for their practices that have nothing to do with weapon function and military doctrine must be one-size-fits-all.How many who dont clean their guns are/were in the military and actually used their weapons for their intended purpose and left them dirty indefinitely for the function reasons as stated by those who carry them dirty?
While it may not be the military, their principles of firearms maintenance, do in fact apply to anyone who might use and rely on their weapon.This ain't the military and what works for them is not necessarily best for the rest of us.
So do I, and I encourage everyone to do so. Especially dwelling on the "think" part.Personally, I prefer to think for myself.
Not necessarily....their principles of firearms maintenance, do in fact apply to anyone who might use and rely on their weapon.
And you think I only carry mine to the mall??? I use my guns and often. Haven't used an indoor range in several years.I know most who carry a gun in a civilian role, don't have to deal with conditions other than air conditioning and maybe light surface dust in the house, but some of us do live and work in little more rustic conditions, and proper maintenance beyond normal cleaning after shooting is prudent as well as necessary.
Not a valid argument either. I grew up cleaning guns as soon as we returned from the range, every single time. In my 20's I read the work of a gunwriter who is now over 80yrs old and I began, like he did, to question the practice.I suppose there may also be a difference here in age too.
Corrosive ammo and blackpowder are different. I've hunted with nothing but blackpowder for several years and they are cleaned after shooting. Big difference.Ive also bought a couple of real nice looking M1's, that were trashed because someone shot corrosive ammo out of them and didnt clean them.
I have a collection of over 80 guns with about $50,000 invested. My guns get wiped down after shooting and cleaned only when necessary. If I were hurting anything, I would go back to cleaning every range session. I'm not. So I don't.You may believe you're not hurting anything by not cleaning.....
I don't buy cheap gun show ammo. I buy domestic .223, .380 and .45ACP for the automatics. The rest gets handloaded.Buy some "cheap" practice ammo at a gun show, blast away, put it back in your holster, and by next week, you might not get the slide back.
How? Please elaborate.Not necessarily.
I have no idea how you carry your gun or under what conditions. I wasnt referring to where you shoot, but just the accumulation of crap and crud you get from daily carry and use. All that extra unseen junk can and will impact how your gun works, especially if left unattended over time.And you think I only carry mine to the mall??? I use my guns and often. Haven't used an indoor range in several years.
So when is it necessary? How do you determine "necessary"? How do you know the exact point that the gun will start having issues, and not work the next time you use it, especially if you havent cleaned it in awhile? With 80 guns, when was the last time #48 was cleaned and how much was it shot? What do you do, keep a log of "dirtyness"?My guns get wiped down after shooting and cleaned only when necessary.
To me, number and price are meaningless, I clean a $99 CZ the same as I clean a $20000 MP5, properly, each and every time.I have a collection of over 80 guns with about $50,000 invested.
99% of what I shoot these days are reloads, so I dont worry to much about corrosive or unknowns. I still clean after every shooting regardless. Besides just cleaning the gun, it allows me to keep a watch on things and check for any possible issues or trouble that might arise from use.I don't buy cheap gun show ammo. I buy domestic .223, .380 and .45ACP for the automatics. The rest gets handloaded.
When they come out with a powder and bullet that leave no residue, and some sort of carry system that allows nothing on or into the gun, then maybe Ill change. So far, what Ive been doing has worked for me, and seeing your way doing things, fail, so Ill keep doing what Im doing, until your way is proven to be 100%. Hows that. Now Im lazy, and you have to prove it. So get to work, thats a lot of shooting.The difference is that I've done it both ways and made an educated decision. You are doing what you do out of habit and indoctrination. You have never done it different, are probably completely unwilling to do it any differently, yet are fully comfortable with labeling those who do not agree with you "lazy".
That's interesting and perhaps an admirable/notable thing. I don't do that though. Everyone has to take ultimate responsibility for the state of their weapon.. and maybe it's a zen thing but a little dust, in my opinion, ain't going to kill you..I dont know what yours looks like after a week of riding in a holster, but I know if I allowed mine to go any longer than that without a field strip and quick cleaning, there would be trouble..
Why would you assume I'm not? I do maintain them. I just don't do it the same way you do. That is no reason to assume that my guns are rusted, corroded hulks. Because they're not. I post pictures of my guns constantly and I've never had someone say, "damn, your guns are so dirty!".Since youre throwing out values, if youre worried about maintaining their value, why wouldnt you maintain them?