Do you own more plastic or metal

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just a comment really, not a vote but I personally saw a Iraqi Police Forces(IPF, back when they were still called that) pistol whip a hadji with a glock 17 and the handle cracked and broke, it was still operational if your hands were hard as woodpecker lips though
 
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2 metal
0 polymer

Having said that an HK USP and HK 45C are towards the top of my wish list...
 
Actually I prefer ceramic blades on the Boker brand. :D

Boker makes fantastic knives but how does that ceramic work if you need to chop or pry? How does one sharpen one of those, if you manage to dull it?

BTW....Off topic but I have this old Boker "tree brand" knife (toothpick style folder) that has a metal handle that is shaped/etched like a fish. Have you seen anything like that or know anything about them?



just a comment really, not a vote but I personally saw a Iraqi Police Forces(IPF, back when they were still called that) pistol whip a hadji with a glock 17 and the handle cracked and broke, it was still operational if your hands were hard as woodpecker lips though

Not surprising at all. :eek:

I've mentioned it before.....If push comes to shove and you have to use your pistol by means of something other than the business end....Good luck with your plastic club. :banghead:
 
For me, the poly feels cheap, looks cheap, uh-oh it is cheap.....Hard to really warm up to something that falls into those categories.
I think that weight has a lot to do with how humans view things as cheap and not cheap...

Heavier equals "better" than lighter to most humans.
Even if it is not true.
Some examples...

I have a heavy quilt that my Grandmother made many years ago....and it is heavy with a capital "H".
And I have a light-weight sleeping bag.
The sleeping bag will actually keep a person warmer, but if you ask someone (except for experienced hikers and campers) which is better for cold weather (and I have) they almost always choose the heavier quilt.

I also have a S&W Airweight snubbie revolver and a Taurus 905 steel snubbie revolver.
The S&W is the better made revolver hands down.
But the Taurus FEELS more substantial.
And when I show them to folks who know nothing about firearms or metallurgy, they almost always think that the Taurus is the superior handgun.
Simply because it feels more substantial to them.

When it comes to firearms we must avoid falling in to this trap of thinking more weight equals better.



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Overwhelmingly metal

I have a Glock 19 and a Kel Tec P3AT. My spouse has a P32 and a P11 of her own.

I'm not counting plastic/synthetic stocked rifles.
 
Hey easy.....I understand what you're say about the weight but for me it has never been about the weight. The weight really isn't what makes them feel cheap. It's just the sensation of the molded poly frame in the palm of my hand. :scrutiny:

Its just not what I consider a top quality, heirloom firearm to be made of. Not that poly pistols aren't quality made, they just don't look or feel that way........If that makes sense. LOL
 
It's just the sensation of the molded poly frame in the palm of my hand.
But the sensation of cheap cast metal or MIM feels fine?

I'm willing to bet that the weight factor has more effect on your psyche than you might believe.
 
But the sensation of cheap cast metal or MIM feels fine?

I'm willing to bet that the weight factor has more effect on your psyche than you might believe.

LOL ...... Isn't the cheap tupperware injection molded? :eek:

I've never been able to discern any difference when handling a cast frame from a forged frame. Now looking internally, sure.

Grasping at straws are we? :eek:
 
I just don't have the same admiration, confidence or respect for plastic tools, as I do for hard forged steel ones.
Forged steel is quickly becoming an obsolete material for handgun frames; even revolvers.

Next it will be poly blades and we'll have to hear how they're somehow superior to steel blades, because they weigh .02 ounces lighter and they don't rust.
Ceramic.
 
but I personally saw a Iraqi Police Forces(IPF, back when they were still called that) pistol whip a hadji with a glock 17 and the handle cracked and broke, it was still operational if your hands were hard as woodpecker lips though
No, you didn't.
 
1-plastic: glock 21sf
2-metal: baer monolith 1911 .45, bulgarian makarov 9x18
:)
 
For me, the poly feels cheap, looks cheap, uh-oh it is cheap.....

You are confusing cheap with inexpensive. Poly simply saves time vs machining a metal frame and thus costs less. The polymers being used in pistols are a far cry from what is used in the toys they are so often compared to.

OTOH, the startup costs (molds) are going to be higher for poly. Probably why as you move towards high-end (and thus low volume) guns you see less poly. Making a poly frame would probably cost more than metal if you are only making 500 guns instead of 500,000.
 
2 poly framed pistols, two metal framed pistols. Ruger 22/45 MkIII, S&W M&P 9, S&W Model 34-1, Ruger Security Six .357Mag

Used to hate poly, but have grown to like it much more...
 
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