This was my first post on defensivecarry.com and it did well enough that I thought I'd ask my favorite crowd (here)
I know in several states it is not illegal to conceal carry on college or work (certain exceptions aside like primary or secondary schools, daycare, post office, prohibited by Federal law, etc) But here in KY it is not a crime to conceal carry (if you have a license to do so, obviously) at college or work. Now, you can be disciplined or fired (with the exception of if it is in your car and the car is not school/employer property) for having a firearm on or about you, but it is not a criminal offense.
I personally believe students should be able to conceal carry on campus as should employees. Obviously to conceal carry (at least here) you have to be 21 and show a degree of maturity. For most college students that means you are in your last year or two of college, if not graduate school! For me, as a grad student at a medical school I am in a downtown environment most of my days and nights. I don't think it's unreasonable for at least the professional students (MD, DMD, PhD, etc) to be allowed concealed carry (we have alot more to lose, and a lot more student loans haha). Every semester we have 3-4 "alerts" of students being robbed, attacked, raped, or failed attempts (had one attempted kidnapping last month) at such acts. What complicates things is my line of study takes me in and out of hospitals all the time (I don't think it's illegal to carry in a hospital just against their policy). At least while on campus, if caught I could get (potentially) expelled. I know several employees (all female and all carry purses) who keep a small revolver in their purse (all of them are nurses, reasoning that based on them seeing crazy drugged-up people who threw off 6 security guards, so they wanted more than pepper spray).
So my question is this, to those where it is legal to conceal carry, but against "policy", do you conceal carry? I'm on the fence right now. I wear scrubs all the time but something like a Sticky/Remora holster or belly band would help keep things concealed (scrubs are loose but their waistbands aren't elastic and they are very thin) or maybe something like a 5.11 tactical holster shirt (many scrubs have pockets on inside and out and people keep cellphones on the inside breast pocket to keep them from falling out. So I have options and for my trips to the hospitals to see patients (for research, not as a medical student) I can bypass the metal detectors for the hospitals and schools don't have them. But given cases of students simply brandishing a firearm to defend their campus housing (college owned but off campus site) and getting suspended/expelled for it, well it makes me really hesitant. If it were a job I would carry, hell I can always find another job and there is no criminal charges involved (if I am ever a professor/physician I plan on carrying everywhere). But if I'm expelled, well that record follows you when you're in school. One student at University of Kentucky had a weapon in his car, got fired (was also an employee) but managed to reverse the decision because KY law specifically states employers can't fire employees for keeping a gun in their car (glove box is not considered concealed).
I have done many many many searches for this topic and the results mostly are about whether concealed carry on college campuses should be allowed or not. This is about DO you RISK it?
Who here risks it or would risk it? And where?
I know in several states it is not illegal to conceal carry on college or work (certain exceptions aside like primary or secondary schools, daycare, post office, prohibited by Federal law, etc) But here in KY it is not a crime to conceal carry (if you have a license to do so, obviously) at college or work. Now, you can be disciplined or fired (with the exception of if it is in your car and the car is not school/employer property) for having a firearm on or about you, but it is not a criminal offense.
I personally believe students should be able to conceal carry on campus as should employees. Obviously to conceal carry (at least here) you have to be 21 and show a degree of maturity. For most college students that means you are in your last year or two of college, if not graduate school! For me, as a grad student at a medical school I am in a downtown environment most of my days and nights. I don't think it's unreasonable for at least the professional students (MD, DMD, PhD, etc) to be allowed concealed carry (we have alot more to lose, and a lot more student loans haha). Every semester we have 3-4 "alerts" of students being robbed, attacked, raped, or failed attempts (had one attempted kidnapping last month) at such acts. What complicates things is my line of study takes me in and out of hospitals all the time (I don't think it's illegal to carry in a hospital just against their policy). At least while on campus, if caught I could get (potentially) expelled. I know several employees (all female and all carry purses) who keep a small revolver in their purse (all of them are nurses, reasoning that based on them seeing crazy drugged-up people who threw off 6 security guards, so they wanted more than pepper spray).
So my question is this, to those where it is legal to conceal carry, but against "policy", do you conceal carry? I'm on the fence right now. I wear scrubs all the time but something like a Sticky/Remora holster or belly band would help keep things concealed (scrubs are loose but their waistbands aren't elastic and they are very thin) or maybe something like a 5.11 tactical holster shirt (many scrubs have pockets on inside and out and people keep cellphones on the inside breast pocket to keep them from falling out. So I have options and for my trips to the hospitals to see patients (for research, not as a medical student) I can bypass the metal detectors for the hospitals and schools don't have them. But given cases of students simply brandishing a firearm to defend their campus housing (college owned but off campus site) and getting suspended/expelled for it, well it makes me really hesitant. If it were a job I would carry, hell I can always find another job and there is no criminal charges involved (if I am ever a professor/physician I plan on carrying everywhere). But if I'm expelled, well that record follows you when you're in school. One student at University of Kentucky had a weapon in his car, got fired (was also an employee) but managed to reverse the decision because KY law specifically states employers can't fire employees for keeping a gun in their car (glove box is not considered concealed).
I have done many many many searches for this topic and the results mostly are about whether concealed carry on college campuses should be allowed or not. This is about DO you RISK it?
Who here risks it or would risk it? And where?
