Does any one know soneone busted for 922r compliance?

[fireman]

You hear a lot about parts counts. The 10 parts game. "Evil" looking SKS
Then you go to gun shows and see all of the variations. My question is,has anyone ever actually KNOW of a guy actually busted for 922r compliance. I have heard of it but it is always "some guy" story. Any one have actual facts?

Fireman

 

[bunkysdad]

I never have, but I always figured that it would be administered by the powers that be if the firearm was used and confiscated in a raid or crime.

 

[Mooseman]

I have never heard of anyone being busted for it but I imagine its added on to other charges. I wonder if its reported under a blanket term like illegal or restricted firearm. Personally I just work with the law to avoid the stress.

 

[Handgunner]

Personally I just work with the law to avoid the stress.

Great advice.

That would be a major headache that I can certainly live without.

 

[Badlander]

I think that if they are looking at your gun that hard. You are already in trouble <Edited -- Sam> and they are looking for ways to add to your already long sentence.
Your average cop doesn't know anything about 922R compliance.

 

[SpamHandler]

Never heard of anyone being in trouble for compliance. Or for non-compliance either.

 

[WardenWolf]

922(r) compliance is inherently an addon charge because it requires disassembly of the weapon to prove, which amounts to a search of your property. The weapon would already have to be in police custody and would require a warrant to hold for search. Just checking for 922(r) compliance is full of legal potholes that could get the case thrown out if executed improperly.

The short answer is: it's best to be in compliance, even though the odds of being busted for non-compliance are practically nonexistant.

 

[TexasRifleman]

I think Mike the Wolf is right. Really, no organization short of ATF Tech Branch would be in a position to say for certain if the firearm is in violation.

You have to have already had a series of VERY bad days to get that far along.....

 

[WardenWolf]

Correct. To get busted, you pretty much have to have already screwed up bigtime. Also, the 922(r) statue is itself on shaky legal ground because it relies on a legal definition that is no longer part of law. It references and relies on a section of law that has been struck from the books with the expiration of the Assault Weapons Ban.

 

[NWCP]

I'm acquainted with a shooter that is and has been in court for years now fighting the BTAFE. It wasn't over 922r compliance, but has been a real eye opener for me and others that are familiar with his case. The government has deep pockets and a long memory.

 

[RP88]

+1 to every "add-on charge, etc." post.

Another problem is proving whether or not the parts in question actually ARE in non-compliance, which would take a good metallurgist and proof that the person caught intentionally violated the section to begin with. Also, since many parts (US and foreign alike) are un-marked for origin of manufacture, the chances of them even trying to bust you for it to begin with would probably be a huge waste of time and money (after all, they already know that they're sending you to jail, so why rip themselves off in the process?)

The main purpose of 922r is similar to the import laws that are made to inconvenience importers that are "making money by flooding the gun market with inexpensive cop-killer machine-gun assault battle destructive device rifles". Think about it: spending a lot of money to try and bust a guy for a charge with extreme situational plausible deniability pales in comparison to busting an entire import/manufacturing company that they could easily pile hundreds if not thousands of 922r charges against them (especially since the company would have no real plausible deniability).

IIRC, didn't Tennessee Gun Works get put under investigation for something similar?

 

[fireman]

Thanks guys. Interesting answers. I have a folding stock for a sks and see no reason not to use it. It makes it easy to put behind the seat of the pickup.(unloaded of course)

fireman