Does anyone have a problem carrying "cock and locked"

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Let's see. I have three pistols that can be carried cocked and locked.

  • 1911

    Browning High Power

    Taurus PT92

I have carried them all in this condition and have NOT yet managed to put a round through a body part that the missus would sorely grieve the loss of. ;) Yeah, I'm good with cocked and locked!!!! :evil:
 
Some of the posts on this thread have really got me chuckling--both the ones that were intended as humerous and the ones that weren't! Anyway, I have no problem carrying cocked and locked. I don't understand the views expressed by some that I have three things to think about to fire my gun. I guess I am not thinking hard enough. When I draw my 1911 it seems to go bang when I pull the trigger. Somewhere between point A (in the holster) and point B (firing) a bunch of stuff must be happening and really slowing me down. I guess I need to get a gun with no safeties and a really heavy, sloppy trigger so I can see how fast I can really be! Bet that would do wonders for my accuracy as well.

:D

GR
 
While I have no problem carrying C&L or seeing others carry C&L, I just find myself using Condition 2 more often on my 1911 & Firestar 9mm. Why?...

* I shoot a lot of SA revolvers (& a lot of revolvers SA), so I'm already used to cocking on the draw.
*With practice (like everything else), cocking an auto on the draw is no more difficult or fumble-prone than using the thumb safety.
* Most modern SA autos allow themselves to be carried this way safely.
* It makes the gun a little more "proprietary" in a scuffle. The other person will have to figure out why pulling the trigger doesn't work while I'm taking my gun back from him...:evil:

Condition 1 or Condition 2 are the only ways to CARRY a gun. All the rest are storage methods.

Now, a Glock or Steyr WITHOUT the safeties found in a good 1911---that makes me a little nervous...:what:

(BTW, my 1991A1 is mechanically stock. Only changes are Pachmyer (sp?) grips & LPA adj. sights. I LIKE 5-7 lb. triggers...)
 
As you can tell from handle, I have a Firestar 9mm (and several other single action pistols) which is a SA only gun. I don't carry it C&L but I do carry it with the hammer down and one in the tube. The hammer is easy to cock but it would be better if it were DA for the first shot and SA for the remaining shots. I have come to the conclusion that the best system for carry is DA/SA with no safty and a decocker only.

With a DA/SA and decocker, as long as there is a round in the chamber, there is never a time when simply pulling the trigger won't make the gun shoot. I try to remember the K.I.S.S. principle as much as I can. A good defensive gun should be as simple as possible without giving up the other features that are important.
 
Does anyone have a problem carrying "cock and locked"
As you can guess by my handle, no, I don't have any problem with condition 1.

If you do, here's a suggestion. First, take your 1911 and carry around the house for several weeks. Carry it chamber empty, but cocked and locked. See if the hammer ever falls or the safety ever gets wiped off. If you do that and you're still not comfortable with it, then maybe condition-one is not for you. As I'm sure you're aware, there's plenty of good alternatives out there, like Glocks, Sigs, HKs, etc.

The great thing about capitalism is choices. If you don't like mine, then pick something else.
 
If you have to think about manipulating your gun, you're not practicing enough. The safety on a 1911 is just muscle memory for many people. Conscious thought is not given just as the "finger off the trigger" practice does not take conscious thought.

I'm not going to say what works for you. But don't assume that C&L is unsafe or ineffective. It is safe and it is effective if you practice, just like with any mode of fire.
 
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