Does this-- or can this -- exist? ("sporter thumper")
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With regard to WYO's post, here's one I forgot...
the BAR in .338 Win Mag, with the BOSS system installed.
This rifle, with BOSS (Ballistic Optimized Shooting System, IIRC), feels like a .308 when fired from the bench. No kidding! It's sweet, and that .338 will thump rather well, I think.
the BAR in .338 Win Mag, with the BOSS system installed.
This rifle, with BOSS (Ballistic Optimized Shooting System, IIRC), feels like a .308 when fired from the bench. No kidding! It's sweet, and that .338 will thump rather well, I think.
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Kaylee
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Neat ideas all! Thank you!
I do have a little .22 pistol I got for the "food getting" part.. between that, snare wire, a block of datrex, and my own plentiful fat reserves I don't think I'd be hurting too much for food.
I'm more looking for an "eek!" rifle if stuck in the backcountry. The McCann M1 sure looks really cool, though beyond my means now (I have to admit, Oleg's little 8-ball did come to mind as an inspiration as well, though it seems a touch clunky). The SX2 from Winchester also looks interesting, though I've not tried one.
Hrmm..
The commercial BARs look interesting.. I don't suppose anyone makes straight-wrist stocks for 'em? Or tried 'em with scout glass?
I do have a little .22 pistol I got for the "food getting" part.. between that, snare wire, a block of datrex, and my own plentiful fat reserves I don't think I'd be hurting too much for food.
I'm more looking for an "eek!" rifle if stuck in the backcountry. The McCann M1 sure looks really cool, though beyond my means now (I have to admit, Oleg's little 8-ball did come to mind as an inspiration as well, though it seems a touch clunky). The SX2 from Winchester also looks interesting, though I've not tried one.
Hrmm..
The commercial BARs look interesting.. I don't suppose anyone makes straight-wrist stocks for 'em? Or tried 'em with scout glass?
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OK, FWIW, I'll throw in my $.02 worth.
First of all, I second the Rem 870 and Ithaca posters, for the reasons they specify.
Personally, I'd go with a Marlin 1895 in .45-70, .450 Marlin, or .457 Wild West Magnum. I'd want it in stainless, too.
The gentleman who suggested the SMLE Jungle Carbine is on the right track, but I'd take a serious look at Gibbs' version that holds 5 rds of .45-70.
If you're committed to an autoloader, I'd go with the Springfield SU-16, short-barrelled version of the M-14. Twenty rds of .308 at your fingertips and instant magazine changes make it potent bear medicine. Good enough to hunt for survival with, too.
First of all, I second the Rem 870 and Ithaca posters, for the reasons they specify.
Personally, I'd go with a Marlin 1895 in .45-70, .450 Marlin, or .457 Wild West Magnum. I'd want it in stainless, too.
The gentleman who suggested the SMLE Jungle Carbine is on the right track, but I'd take a serious look at Gibbs' version that holds 5 rds of .45-70.
If you're committed to an autoloader, I'd go with the Springfield SU-16, short-barrelled version of the M-14. Twenty rds of .308 at your fingertips and instant magazine changes make it potent bear medicine. Good enough to hunt for survival with, too.
Kaylee,
This may be about the last thing you'd choose, but I've done some thinking about this subject, since I plan on finding myself up in Alaska. For you, your needs are a light, fast-handling, compact firearm that is so portable that you'll never leave it in the plane or cabin. If it's sturdy, easy/fast to build up, and reasonably lost cost, those are all pluses, too.
Even if it's not a phased-plasma rifle in the forty watt range, with a purty wood stock.
For close range bear defense, an 18" GR Mossberg or Remington with an M4 stock, loaded with slugs would be dandy. This'll give you something almost as handy getting into and out of cockpits as a pistol grip version, but with the added goodness of shoulder-mounted fire. Add a sidesaddle, and you have 4 or more (depending on model) extra shells that stay with the weapon.
If you only wanted "just one" weapon, that sidesaddle could be holding #6 shot. (Or pepper loads?)
You could also mount a light, on the barrel or integral to the slide. Night-time defense against dangerous game is perhaps the most legitimate use I can imagine of white weapon lights.
John
This may be about the last thing you'd choose, but I've done some thinking about this subject, since I plan on finding myself up in Alaska. For you, your needs are a light, fast-handling, compact firearm that is so portable that you'll never leave it in the plane or cabin. If it's sturdy, easy/fast to build up, and reasonably lost cost, those are all pluses, too.
Even if it's not a phased-plasma rifle in the forty watt range, with a purty wood stock.
For close range bear defense, an 18" GR Mossberg or Remington with an M4 stock, loaded with slugs would be dandy. This'll give you something almost as handy getting into and out of cockpits as a pistol grip version, but with the added goodness of shoulder-mounted fire. Add a sidesaddle, and you have 4 or more (depending on model) extra shells that stay with the weapon.
If you only wanted "just one" weapon, that sidesaddle could be holding #6 shot.
(Or pepper loads?)You could also mount a light, on the barrel or integral to the slide. Night-time defense against dangerous game is perhaps the most legitimate use I can imagine of white weapon lights.
John
Preacherman, my pleasure.
Kaylee, AFAIK, the BAR never was produced with a straight grip stock, only the BLR.
Hypnogator, here's a review of the Gibbs .45-70 Enfield conversion: http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/kingandcountry/index.asp. It's largely positive, but I also have read negative accounts about the quality of some of the Gibbs rifles and I am uncertain as to how well the Enfield action would handle hot .45-70 loads. I've never handled one personally, so somebody more knowledgeable than I can tackle that topic, as I'm hesitant to speak ill of a rifle of which I have no personal knowledge.
OTOH, does anybody know if these actually were imported or not?
http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga_9-02.htm
That might be a solution.
Kaylee, AFAIK, the BAR never was produced with a straight grip stock, only the BLR.
Hypnogator, here's a review of the Gibbs .45-70 Enfield conversion: http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/kingandcountry/index.asp. It's largely positive, but I also have read negative accounts about the quality of some of the Gibbs rifles and I am uncertain as to how well the Enfield action would handle hot .45-70 loads. I've never handled one personally, so somebody more knowledgeable than I can tackle that topic, as I'm hesitant to speak ill of a rifle of which I have no personal knowledge.
OTOH, does anybody know if these actually were imported or not?
http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga_9-02.htm
That might be a solution.
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