Does You Ammo Match?
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There are some guys I know who carry HP's but their reload mags are loaded with FMJ in case they need more barrier penetration.
I don't see the point. I just load HPs and use the same for my reload mag.
The only exception is my Ruger LCP where i carry FMJ for penetration and reliability purposes.
I don't see the point. I just load HPs and use the same for my reload mag.
The only exception is my Ruger LCP where i carry FMJ for penetration and reliability purposes.
wildehond
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I used to carry alternating/staggered rounds of hollow points and then a FMJ in all the mags. But now I carry only hollowpoints in all the mags I use for CC.
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I usually carry alternating rounds of HP and FMJ in both my gun mag and my reload mag. The exception is when I'm carrying one of my .380s; here I prefer to go with all FMJ for reliability.
The only time I'll mix ammo is during a hike in snake territory. The first chamber in the cylinder is loaded with snake shot, the rest with FMJ. For CC, I've always done the same ammunition type (FMJ in a 1911, JHP in everything else). Since you asked for a reason, for me it's that ammunition is part of an overall system, and I like consistency to the point of boredom in my systems. My goal is effective hits, quickly. On a human, the JHP will generally be more effective, but if there was no expansion (say due to a HP clogged by clothing) I still get the penetration of FMJ with a bonded bullet. I also use consistency in my training and carry load. I know how it behaves, and how well I can shoot it. I know where the trigger will break and what the recoil will be like. In turn I can get that front sight or point back on the target and go again.
I have a question for those that have answered that they carry both: What kind of barriers will an FMJ in a handgun round penetrate that a JHP handgun round will not? I'm talking the common autoloading calibers here, as the variance between bullet types and loadings in revolvers tend to be a little more stark.
I have a question for those that have answered that they carry both: What kind of barriers will an FMJ in a handgun round penetrate that a JHP handgun round will not? I'm talking the common autoloading calibers here, as the variance between bullet types and loadings in revolvers tend to be a little more stark.
I don't anticipate my ammo selection being the issue with penetration. If I'm not stopping the attacker on the first magazine, I either need to pump more lead into COM, or if he's wearing body armor I need to change where I'm placing rounds.
firesky101
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I try to practice with the same recoil/weight that I carry, but not jhp's for practice though. I thought this thread would be about matching in the mags, it looks like some others did too. As for that I usually load all the same round, unless playing near snakes. I have bought two pistols that came with loaded magazines of mixed randomness, a jhp here a fmj there, oh look a lrn , and one silvertip
rcmodel
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Staggered loads in mags huh?
Well O.K. then.
Carry it to it's logical conclusion and cover ALL the bases.
JHP is the most effective SD load you can carry.
And if a mag full of them doesn't work, FMJ isn't going to work any better!
rc
Well O.K. then.
Carry it to it's logical conclusion and cover ALL the bases.
JHP is the most effective SD load you can carry.
And if a mag full of them doesn't work, FMJ isn't going to work any better!
rc
Thanks for the replies. A co-worker showed me his carry gun (walther PPQ) and the mag in the gun was federal JHP of some kind and the reload was ball. His reasoning was the same as others; one for people and one for circumstances involving barriers.
I explained to him that with all the new tech that utilizes bonded bullets, there's no need for mixed mags. He's been out of the loop for some time now and seemed quite intrigued with the new (to him) development. Anyways, just thought I'd ask.
I explained to him that with all the new tech that utilizes bonded bullets, there's no need for mixed mags. He's been out of the loop for some time now and seemed quite intrigued with the new (to him) development. Anyways, just thought I'd ask.
postalnut25
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Since my job buys my carry ammo I have the same load in my gun and in my reload.
rcmodel
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You should.
If you bother to function test a carry gun to be 100% reliable with the ammo you intend to carry in it.
rc
If you bother to function test a carry gun to be 100% reliable with the ammo you intend to carry in it.
rc
firesky101
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Ok read the whole post again. Everybody but me got it, I thought you were actually asking us about our practice reloads. Any ways I guess I answered both questions though, so I don't feel quite as dumb. Same ammo in all my mags/speedloaders, unless I am hunting.
. Any ways I guess I answered both questions though, so I don't feel quite as dumb. Same ammo in all my mags/speedloaders, unless I am hunting.Some may carry an expensive SD round in their gun and cheaper fmj in their reload figuring it may save them a bit if they swap out ammo often. The only time I do something like this is when I carry a j frame I carry wadcuters in the gun and swcs for my backup ammo as they are easier to reload.
trickyasafox
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Mine matches most of the time- unless I'll be out in the woods. then I carry a mag of cheap reloads for targets of opportunity, as I don't want to use carry ammo on plinking fodder.
ArchAngelCD
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I feel it's a bad idea to mix ammo in your handgun and spar magazine/speedloader.
Hitting what you aim at is paramount to protecting yourself and those around you. Very rarely will two different types of ammo shoot to the same POI, that's why I think carrying different ammo in your gun is a bad idea.
Under a SD situation you want the same exact feel, recoil and POI from every shot you take. The best ammo in the world or changing from FMJ to HP to SWC will do you no good unless you make good hits. Forget all the gimmicks and practice enough with one round to hit what you shoot at...
Hitting what you aim at is paramount to protecting yourself and those around you. Very rarely will two different types of ammo shoot to the same POI, that's why I think carrying different ammo in your gun is a bad idea.
Under a SD situation you want the same exact feel, recoil and POI from every shot you take. The best ammo in the world or changing from FMJ to HP to SWC will do you no good unless you make good hits. Forget all the gimmicks and practice enough with one round to hit what you shoot at...
Joe_m107
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Yes, sometimes I mismatch. I have taken to carrying a S&W M29 44mag revolver. Around town I load it with 44 Special JHP, my reload will often consist of a heavier better penetrating 44Magnum round.
I live in Alaska. This just kind of makes sense to me in case I require something to take a large animal down. Be it a moose or bear.
I live in Alaska. This just kind of makes sense to me in case I require something to take a large animal down. Be it a moose or bear.
Deus Machina
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The only times I mismatch are with my pocket revolver. 125gr SJHP .38's all the time, usually with the same in a quick-strip in the other pocket. If I really think that a heavy coat that day might make a difference or I'm worried about picking lint into them, or I'm in a place I'm more worried about gators, I might swap the strip out for whatever 158gr SWC's I have around.
In those circumstances it makes sense to mix. When I carried a 342PD it would be loaded with standard pressure Federals JHP and the reload was federal +P. Same bullet weight, same brand of ammo. I didn't have a goofs reason for doing it other than I hated shooting the +P's out of the thing. I still think its not the best practice but it's not as bad as staggering mags with hollows and FMJ, IMO.
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