Downward $ pressure on guns?

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Anyone else seem to think that reasonable retail, used, and C&R prices are coming DOWN? There seems to be a real downward pressure on gun prices lately...

I seem to be picking up some really good deals over the last, say, two years. Is this due to the overpurchases during Obamascare? Some weird inflaction/stagflation economics principle? Or 10% (20% real) unemployment??

Or am I just crazy?
 
I've seen a lot of good deals lately from individuals. People needing money for various reasons. I would say people needing Christmas money being the biggest reason I've seen.
 
I'm pretty damn sure that tomorrow morning I could sell all seventeen guns that I've purchsed just this year for at least 20--25% more than what I've got into them. And that includes all the silly fees, Dros's, shipping costs and taxes that I've incurred.

I'll take that over the stock market any day of the week....
 
I agree. Maybe not on everything, but prices HAVE been coming down on many guns lately, as well as hi-cap mags. My stockbroker says to buy into weakness, so I guess I have to buy some more...
 
I attend local gun shows at least once monthly. I will only address the most egregious offenders. With regard to ~ two years ago:

--primer prices have finally returned to normal ~$30/1000
--.380 ammo prices have returned to a reasonable level (with the corresponding stabilization in supply)
--AR15 prices have returned to (nearly) what they were 3-4 years ago.

Not to say that any will stay there, dependent upon the outcome of the next electon...

With regard to more common firearms such as Remington 870s/700s, Garands, S&W revolvers, 1911s and Glocks/XDs/etc, ...there is still a supply/demand effect, but given the current economy, it is more of a buyer's market in my neck o'the woods (Dallas, TX area).

If I had some disposable income, I saw three or four guns today that I would have jumped upon. Unfortunately, I do not, so I was just looking and enjoying the day.
 
Last night on Ammo-Seek, the best deal on bulk Russian .223 was about $.20-.21/round.

I also saw the $79 Mosin Nagants on either Aimsurplus or JGsales.

All of these items seem to have dropped in the last few months (back to prices in early '08: before The Tlection) and must be a result of the recession, or larger/cheaper export shipments from Russia.
 
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I think prices have dropped on EBRs, but not otherwise. That being said, I think prices on new Italian guns are about to go through the floor.
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I hope your right. I've had my eye on a Beretta and Benelli. I will buy them eventually at the price they are now, but I would buy them immediately if they dropped significantly.
 
I noticed lower prices on very common guns. For example the most recent gun show had mosin nagants for $99 (they were at 150) and the ruger p95 was around 280-300 (up to $350) I'm sure this is a small lull before they go up again...
 
Anyone else seem to think that reasonable retail, used, and C&R prices are coming DOWN? There seems to be a real downward pressure on gun prices lately...
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You haven't priced M44 Mosin Nagants lately, have ya?

I haven't noticed prices on pre lock S&W revolvers coming down either. :(

OTOH, while I haven't seen ammo prices coming down, I DO see the occasional sale.

Saw a price tag on a box of 1K WSP the other day of $52! :eek:
 
While I think some prices may have slipped here and there, for the most part the prices are still high. It may be inflation but some prices are just stupid crazy. I posted that I was looking for 10mm brass on several sights and was getting offers of $25 per 100 for range pickups. I thought that was high so I check an on line supplyer and got brand new Starline brass for $16.00 a 100.

I have been looking for a Colt Commander and watching the same three or four on Gunbroker go without a bid and come back up again and again.

WB
 
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--primer prices have finally returned to normal ~$30/1000

Hardly $20/1000 is my new "normal" $10-15/1000 was not all that long ago!
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Same thinking here. I consider $30/1000 high, even if that is below the going rate....When the US stuff went over 30 bucks per 1000 I swapped to Tula for $20 and haven't looked back.
 
Well there are instances of prices going down a bit here and there but they are still plenty high IMHO. Yes there will be a run on selling used firearms so that people can spend the resulting cash on things needed to get by but it seems prices on both new and used firearms etc are always trending upward without relief.
 
I agree with the OP. I have seen prices on new guns drop lately on slickguns.com. Seems to be a fall/winter thing.
 
I haven't seen any gun price drops, but I don't go arms shopping as that often. It could be because people are anticipating a gun friendly Republican victory, the Obama scare has worn off, people need extra cash, or it's just all part of the business cycle.
 
I haven't seen any gun price drops, but I don't go arms shopping as that often. It could be because people are anticipating a gun friendly Republican victory, the Obama scare has worn off, people need extra cash, or it's just all part of the business cycle.
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I think the used market has a lot to do with it too. Guns last a long time, and they're constantly pumping more into the market. With many of those guns eventually reaching the used market, the new and used scenarios compete with each other.

On the one hand, used guns need to be priced well as new manufacturing techniques have made guns cheaper to produce than they once were. If they're too expensive, then people will just buy new. At the same time, with all those used weapons out there, if the a new weapon costs too much then people will go used, so the manufacturers are always looking at ways to cut costs.

Right now you can literally find good quality used 9mm auto-loaders for less than $300 any day of the week. I'm seeing some of the "budget" S&W 3rd gens (like the 910's and the 915's) going for closer to $200.

Sure the dollar's inflation will make the numeric prices undeniably creep up over time, but adjusted for inflation, it seems like prices are pretty good right now.
 
I have seen some beautiful and reasonably priced older S&W revolvers listed without selling. They would have been scooped up quickly a year ago. Maybe the market is drying up for revolvers. New shooters want semi-autos.
 
Or maybe it's because of anxiety over a magazine cap ban so people are scooping them up to preserve them for the foreseeable future. Well that, or more afraid people are picking up their first guns and going for what they recognize from media and get advertised by gun store workers?
 
The Obama AWB bubble has bust, and so has the run on ammo.

Imports are staying stable at pretty low prices do to every currency in the world collapsing faster than the dollar.

Unfortunately, most of the products that interest me right now... good M1 carbines, 1911s, and reloading supplies (bullets and brass, etc...) are still expensive. But at least they can be had.

I think an interesting and related question is going to be whether or not we see it happen all over again next summer.

It may be time to get, while the gettin' is good.
 
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