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has anyone tried the 45 round magazine from dpms? they have a pretty good reputation and i can't imagine they'd sell something that didn't function well but $90 is quite a bit to spend on an experiment. any input would be appreciated.
 
roger that but i was thinking of getting one for my home defense rifle provided others have had good experiences with them. if something goes "thug" in the night, i'm not grabbing extra mags, just the rifle and although thirty really should be enough an extra fifteen would be nice.
 
I haven't tried it but here's my $0.02:

Stick with either a USGI 20 or 30 round mag for your HD rifle. If you feel you might need a reload, add either a Redi-Mag or a buttstock pouch to your rifle. Either of these is a good idea anyway, since many malfs in semiautos are magazine related. With a spare, you can swap it out if the primary goes TU.
 
chopinbloc said:
roger that but i was thinking of getting one for my home defense rifle provided others have had good experiences with them. if something goes "thug" in the night, i'm not grabbing extra mags, just the rifle and although thirty really should be enough an extra fifteen would be nice.
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Using that flawed logic, one would hope that you'd spring for a Beta-C mag, then you'd have 70 more rounds, should something go "thug" in the night.:p
 
rockstar, i KNOW the beta mags are unreliable.
mr. inquisitor, that's the logic that anti's use to argue we don't need more than ten round magazines or that we don't need guns at all. by that logic, i don't even need a magazine. after all, i'm just going to down "a single home invader" with a single shot between the running lights, right? i'm not planning on having to shoot anyone. i would like to be prepared for as much as possible. i'm not planning on having a fire in my home but i bought the largest extinguisher i could afford in addition to several small ones.

i'm not entirely sure why "the high road" exhibits this haughty smugness from time to time. if a 45 round magazine functioned well, what would be the problem? sure, you can't get the rifle as close to the ground in the prone position. i don't see myself taking up a prone position in my civilian life outside of massive civil unrest, in which case i'd probably grab a few extra mags anyway. sure it would be heavier, but it'd be lighter than two thirty round mags. so what's the problem?
 
chopinbloc said:
what would be the problem? sure, you can't get the rifle as close to the ground in the prone position. i don't see myself taking up a prone position in my civilian life outside of massive civil unrest
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yet you see yourself shooting 45+1 rounds at a burglar
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obviously not. but i'd like to have as much ammunition reliably available as possible.

i'm gonna go out on a limb here but i'm guessing your home defense weapon holds more than one round, right?

i don't get it. thirty rounds is perfectly reasonable and no one assumes i'm going to shoot a single assailant thirty times (or miss thirty times) but i mention a 45 round magazine and suddenly it's overkill, i'm rambo and you guys start sounding like chucky schumer.
 
The Grand Inquisitor said:
If you are planning on needing 45 rounds for a single home invader, you can count on spending time in prison regardless of what happens.
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As a cop I can say no you won't. Heck it could be a bad shoot and you would probably get off. We had a precher shoot two scumbags in the back as they were running away he got aquited.

Now in reality do you need 45 rounds no. But if you hosed someone in a good shoot your not going to prison. Its all in the articulation.
Pat
 
understand that i am fully aware that 30 rounds is probably way more than i need. heck, odds are pretty good that i will never have to discharge a firearm at a human being and i pray that i won't. i do, however want to be prepared for any contigency and i just wanted to know if anyone had any experience with the dpms magazine. i suspect that it isn't as reliable as the 30 round mags i currently use but if it were reliable i wouldn't mind having an extra 15 rounds. i did not post this thread in strategies and tactics. i am not asking about whether you think i NEED a 45 round magazine. i'm asking if someone else has purchased one.

not that it's germane to the issue at hand but my hd rifle is also my shtf rifle. i want it to be as versatile and immediately effective as possible.
 
AR15 mags are the weakness of the system its not good to experment. In general mags with more than 30 rounds in most assault rifle mags don't work well. The problem is the spring tension has to be high to feed all those rounds making the first 5 to 10 rounds from the mag very difficult for the bolt to strip. Stick with USGI mags or HK mags. Thermolds are ok too.
Pat
 
The Grand Inquisitor said:
If you are planning on needing 45 rounds for a single home invader, you can count on spending time in prison regardless of what happens.
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Okay, I have to know. What laws are out there that dictate that you can only use a limited number of rounds for home defense before you cross the limit and have to do prison time for going over the limit? What law says planning to need 45 rounds for an intruder will cause you to go to prison?

You should consider reevaluating the bases for your statement. Three are no laws that dictate how many rounds you can use. Either you have the right to use lethal force, or you do not. If you do, then things like round count are immaterial.

chopinbloc said
if something goes "thug" in the night, i'm not grabbing extra mags, just the rifle and although thirty really should be enough an extra fifteen would be nice.
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Okay, so why aren't you grabbing extra mags? If you hear a "thug" in the night, why would you go to investigate and not be adequately prepared?

Interesting about the Beta mags being unreliable. I have several and they have all been great. I don't use them for home defense, however, because they are overly bulky. Others would probably find that the weight issue is also a problem.
 
Are the 45-rounders made to mil specs, or are they made for the civilian market only? If the latter, I'd probably stick to 30's, but you could always get one and use it as your "range magazine" until you have enough rounds through it to be confident in its reliability.

Do be aware that the rifle won't be quite as handy with the 45 in it. I have a few 30's and a 40 for my SAR-1 (AK lookalike in 7.62x39), but my main HD magazine is a 20 because it makes the rifle a lot more portable. If I were in a "SHTF" HD situation, I'd probably grab a 30 or 40, though...

I do agree that having a 45-round magazine in the rifle won't make a bit of difference in determining whether a SD shooting is justified or not. And there's no rule that says you have to actually use every round in the magazine...
 
Is DPMS's mag the old expandible 30 to 45 thermold mag?The 2 I have have worked with out any problems.I didn't use them much.I prefer 20 rd GI for compactness.
 
I have 2 - 40 round mags made by USA Magazine I think. I haven't seen that brand around in the last couple of years. They both work very reliably in my Armalite. They certainly work better than some 20 and 30 rounders I have wasted money on. They are aluminum, not plastic.

I don't think one 40 round mag makes my rifle less handy. However, I tried a mag-cinch with them and two 40 rounders seemed to make the weight seem a lot more.

Someone recommended a company to buy 30 round mags from. I think it was Eagle something. I have had good luck with their 30 rounders and they are cheap.

(sheesh. My writing was bad yesterday.)
 
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Steelcore said:
Is DPMS's mag the old expandible 30 to 45 thermold mag?The 2 I have have worked with out any problems.I didn't use them much.I prefer 20 rd GI for compactness.
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+1
But if you feel the need for more, you might try

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/magazines/51-08-01.asp

It connects two 20 round mags, giving you the additional rounds and the reliability of a second mag should the first one jam. For a lot less $. I have them on all my Colt GI mags and it works well for me. If you jammed on #2 of a 45 rounder, you'd be better off with a bolt gun. If you jammed on #2 of a 5 rounder, you'd be better off with a bolt gun.
 
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If the freaking 45 round mags work there's no more reason to jump the guy than someone asking about using 30s when the 20s exist. I don't see people pound on folks with AK drums either.

The point you really need to consider is that there's a huge body of information about what good 30 round mags there are vs those that aren't reliable. I can't advise anyone picking any less than proven equipment for SD. Buy one and run 500 rounds through it and then decide. If it hiccups even once dump it or keep it as a novelty.
 
I think you guys are misunderstanding me.

First off, I live in illinois, not Alaska, and certainly not Texas, so one of the first things on my mind when it comes to a home invasion (besides the obvious) is what is going to happen after the dust has settled.

More than likely, in a very anti-self defense enviornment, something will come up like, "Well, Mr. Inquisitor, why did you need an assualt rifle...an assualt rifle with 45 deadly rounds of military ammunition"!

Unfortunately, this sort of arguement is pretty rediculous, as it works for everything about a .17 bb, but what I am trying to say is that you need to consider what will come after a home invasion - you're not really "protecting yourself" if you defend yourself, but then put yourself in a comprimising situation to be tossed into prison for some type of murder/manslaughter.
 
The Grand Inquisitor said:
I think you guys are misunderstanding me.

First off, I live in illinois, not Alaska, and certainly not Texas, so one of the first things on my mind when it comes to a home invasion (besides the obvious) is what is going to happen after the dust has settled.

More than likely, in a very anti-self defense enviornment, something will come up like, "Well, Mr. Inquisitor, why did you need an assualt rifle...an assualt rifle with 45 deadly rounds of military ammunition"!

Unfortunately, this sort of arguement is pretty rediculous, as it works for everything about a .17 bb, but what I am trying to say is that you need to consider what will come after a home invasion - you're not really "protecting yourself" if you defend yourself, but then put yourself in a comprimising situation to be tossed into prison for some type of murder/manslaughter.
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You made a very absolute statement which is never a good thing to do. Political enviroments are different everywhere. In your situation the best bet would be to use the most PC gun you could. But even there if you had a good attorney you would not be going to jail so long as it was a good shoot.
Pat
 
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