DPMS GII and other .308 ARs...

[SCCYman]

I got really excited when I saw this new model from DPMS, and I think it will be an out-of-park home run for them, as the word gets out. It's really not any larger/heavier than most 5.56 guns and is not very expensive, to boot. I'm a very big fan of the mid-range calibers like 6.5G, .300 Blk and 6.8 SPC, but this one gets my heart thumpin' again for a 7.62.

The only negative I can see in it is a slightly higher purchase price and ammo costs, after the buy. I've also noted that recently prices have come down on some decent quality/brand 7.62 ARs to the point that you can get one (with some judicious shopping) for around the $700 to $800 price point, and very few 5.56 models will beat that. Of course you pay a weight penalty in anything 7.62 other than the GII. I'm not a fan of 5.56 at all, and the only reason(s) I would even consider one is ammo availability, a long gun for my wife in my absence, and the ability to change to it to a mid-ranger, via an upper (or upper/barrel/bolt group, depending on model/caliber) change. What do you think, guys?

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/8-DPMS-RFLRG2REC

 

[patriot53]

I got really excited when I saw this new model from DPMS, and I think it will be an out-of-park home run for them, as the word gets out. It's really not any larger/heavier than most 5.56 guns and is not very expensive, to boot. I'm a very big fan of the mid-range calibers like 6.5G, .300 Blk and 6.8 SPC, but this one gets my heart thumpin' again for a 7.62.

The only negative I can see in it is a slightly higher purchase price and ammo costs, after the buy. I've also noted that recently prices have come down on some decent quality/brand 7.62 ARs to the point that you can get one (with some judicious shopping) for around the $700 to $800 price point, and very few 5.56 models will beat that. Of course you pay a weight penalty in anything 7.62 other than the GII. I'm not a fan of 5.56 at all, and the only reason(s) I would even consider one is ammo availability, a long gun for my wife in my absence, and the ability to change to it to a mid-ranger, via an upper (or upper/barrel/bolt group, depending on model/caliber) change. What do you think, guys?

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/8-DPMS-RFLRG2REC

I was thinking similar...but depending on optics, you can end up heavier, than a rifle a pound heavier...of course, the same optics on the heavier rifle would make it now heavier.
Also, depends on the "MODEL" of GII...some get hefty, over 8.5-9lbs. +

Also, gonna recoil a bit more due to the light weight, but then again, the .308 is very mild in the recoil as worthwhile rifle calibers go.
I went with the Ruger SR725 very happy with it at 8.5 ibs.
Liked the features of the Ruger...especially the adjustable gas block.

 

[henschman]

I like what they've done to get the size and weight down on the GII... I've always hated how the back of the receivers stick back so far on other .308 ARs, resulting in an uncomfortably long LOP. However, I don't like any of the barrels they are offering on the GII. I wish they'd make a pencil profile barrel like on the AP4, only in 18" or 20".

 

[G.barnes]

The biggest weight factor on a 308 is the ammo. A loaded 20 rd mag weighs 1.5 pounds. One 308 round weighs about the same as 3 5.56 rds.

 

[matai]

I'm really interested in the G2 Recon, although if I can get enough scratch I may go for the Sig 716. I like the idea with the G2 that you can use AR15 rails.

 

[Jackal]

18-20" bbl and I'd bite. Sick and tired of the 16" .308 craze.

 

[strambo]

The GII Hunter has a 20" barrel and weighs less than the Recon.

I really like the Recon and would probably just toss a better rail in it and call it good. This rifle is pretty innovative and the first thing from DPMS I would consider.

 

[carbine85]

I'm looking for a GII Hunter now. At the price point of $1300 I dont a need to try and build one. It's pretty much what I want and less than a M1a

 

[dvdcrr]

I have looked at the g2 and they look nice. I took my mp10 out shooting this weekend in 20-30 mph wind. 220 yd 3 shot group was maybe a hair under 3". Consistently just under or just over MOA depending on the ammo. I replaced the trigger thats it. I shoot on 6X. No complaints on the MP10. I had an Armalite 16" (T) model which is definitely beefier than the mp10 but slung so comfortably. It just hung right behind the shoulder and I found I could carry it effortlessly. It was more accurate tgan the mp10.

 

[henschman]

It seems now everybody is obsessed with carbines, and the only barrels in 20"+ are heavy target type barrels.

I want a modern, flat-top .308 AR with a FAL, M-14, or original AR-10 type barrel... i.e. 20"+, light profile, chrome lined. The closest thing I've seen is Armalite, Inc.'s AR-10, which has a FUBAR gov't- profile barrel, but is the lightest thing available in that length. I suppose I could have one of those turned down forward of the gas block journal and get pretty much where I want to be.

 

[strambo]

Yeah, having someone like ADCO turn it down for like $120 and getting exactly what you want is worth it IMO.